Hands Up, Don't Shoot: Never have so many been so wrong and won't admit it.

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    Mar 16, 2015 9:31 PM GMT
    What? I'm disappointed.

    Still no facts to dispute the figures from the same DOJ that cleared the Ferguson police officer from all allegations of excessive force that were the entire impetus for the "hands up don't shoot" farce and riots that burned down and looted most of the businesses in Ferguson?
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    Mar 16, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
    bobbobbob said@ PhoenixNYC

    Have you no facts from any organization on par with the DOJ to dispute anything I wrote?

    I read the linked article you gave. I relied on solely on opinions of the woman being interviewed and she cannot present any facts to back her "white fragility" theory or she would have been exceedingly willing to do so.


    I was not responding to or disputing anything you wrote...otherwise I would have quoted you.
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    Mar 17, 2015 12:12 AM GMT
    Spazzy doesn't care what yall think.

    * Spazzy writes 5 page manifesto on why he cares. *
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    Mar 17, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
    pazzy saidanother reason why rj isn't somewhere to take seriously.


    folks actually give this sorry fuckboy of a troll attention when they should be clicking the report abuse button.


    Why don't you click the job application link once in awhile you useless POS.
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    Mar 17, 2015 2:17 AM GMT
    There's a dumfounding lack of personal insight in this rebuttal from Pazzy after I have asked several times for facts to dispute facts I gave on a previous comment.


    pazzy said
    bobbobbob saidWhat? I'm disappointed.

    Still no facts to dispute the figures from the same DOJ that cleared the Ferguson police officer from all allegations of excessive force that were the entire impetus for the "hands up don't shoot" farce and riots that burned down and looted most of the businesses in Ferguson?


    Pazzy:
    I think the problem is folks don't know how to debate or argue without turning it into some personal shit or feeling some certain way like they're being disrespected. then to top it off you have folks that want to ignore facts instead of acknowledging them in order to stick with their opinions because they feel they are right and have so much pride on top of that. It's useless Even having these types of discussions.
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    Mar 18, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
    On Monday, Washington Post liberal columnist Jonathan Capehart joined an ever-growing chorus exposing the truth that "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" was a lie:



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    Mar 18, 2015 1:54 AM GMT
    We had another shooting in Kenosha by an officer. This is his 2nd shooting in 1 month, after his first day back after a leave. But this time it was a white guy. His mother is very upset, but the shooting appears it was very warranted, since he was in a high speed chase and then drew a knife out resisting arrest. She too says he was a "good guy." lol She just doesn't want to admit that her son is a felon.
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    Mar 18, 2015 8:11 AM GMT
    michael61 saidWe had another shooting in Kenosha by an officer. This is his 2nd shooting in 1 month, after his first day back after a leave. But this time it was a white guy. His mother is very upset, but the shooting appears it was very warranted, since he was in a high speed chase and then drew a knife out resisting arrest. She too says he was a "good guy." lol She just doesn't want to admit that her son is a felon.


    I don't know why television reporters should even interview Moms of guys like that. It's not like one of them is ever going to talk about how her son started shoplifting at twelve, drugs at fourteen, dropped out of school at sixteen. No. Every mother is going to act like her son was a friggin saint.
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    Mar 18, 2015 8:33 AM GMT
    Gay columnist and commentor on MSNBC Jonathan Capehart did what few in here have taken the time to do. He read the DOJ report on Ferguson and then first realized and now in articles is admitting that "hands up don't shoot" was all lies.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/media/2015/03/17/jonathan-capehart-hands-don-t-shoot-was-lie


    I guess he's a racist too huh Pazzy?
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    Mar 18, 2015 8:48 AM GMT
    I never knew an innocent person who found it necessary to attempt to disarm a police officer, it's a bad move when you're guilty never mind innocent.
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    Mar 18, 2015 12:16 PM GMT
    +10
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    Mar 18, 2015 6:23 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    bobbobbob saidGay columnist and commentor on MSNBC Jonathan Capehart did what few in here have taken the time to do. He read the DOJ report on Ferguson and then first realized and now in articles is admitting that "hands up don't shoot" was all lies.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/media/2015/03/17/jonathan-capehart-hands-don-t-shoot-was-lie


    I guess he's a racist too huh Pazzy?


    i'm sick and tired of clowns like you disguising your thinly vailed racism through discussions like this instead of cutting to the chase.

    if you want to take it back to the 50s and roam the streets in your KKK garment, then go ahead. you have the freedom of expression but kill all this cowardly sideways shit you keep talking.

    if it were all up to men like you, you would basically be victimizing black men as you want to, all putting yourself and other white men up then get rid of any chance of a black person to defend themselves against your nasty, ugly on the inside ass. you want me to respect you because you're white and you have no respect for me because i'm black. you certainly wouldn't want me to stand up to your bitch ass because like so many other folks, it's not right for a black person to stand up to a white person.

    i'm just keeping it 100 right now because i keep seeing the same retardation all the fucking time with what folks are saying THEN have the nerve to accuse folks of pulling the "race card" when that's their fucking m.o. all along.

    then again, i'm not surprised though. the gay community is basically "the gay white male community" and only cares about the upliftment of gay white men where everyone else can go to hell and is far game so it's quite acceptable for you to be a dick to anyone that ain't white especially us black males. obviously the same lames that feel like how you do are the ones that cosign this bs but are too cowardly to just straight up say what everybody and their mama knows. it's so many threads highlighting that basic concept on here and etc and yet "nonwhites are the ones pulling the race card" when it's usually white men like yourself.

    don't worry sir. you gonna get that work today. icon_lol.gif



    Seriously sweetie, after reading this it truly makes me wonder about your sanity. So much anger and resentment built up towards people you don't even know is troubling. Please seek help. The world isn't as cold and terrible as you make it out to be. Not everybody is out to get you.
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    Mar 18, 2015 6:58 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 said

    Seriously sweetie, after reading this it truly makes me wonder about your sanity. So much anger and resentment built up towards people you don't even know is troubling. Please seek help. The world isn't as cold and terrible as you make it out to be. Not everybody is out to get you.


    +100 except for the use of the word sweetie as applied to a neurotic little worm.


    Pazzy, you really are unbalanced. I feel sorry for you but I won't cry one damned tear if you stumbled out in front of a bus tomorrow. I'll just chalk it up to your doing your part in your own way to make the world a better place with your absence in it.


    Here's a picture of Jonathan Capehart.

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    Mar 18, 2015 7:27 PM GMT
    Eugene McAllister v. Ferguson Police Department, et al., No. 4:13-CV-2492-CEJ (E.D.Mo. Mar. 14, 2014). A COMPLIANT backseat passenger brought a 1983 claim after being beaten about the neck and face, and then being bitten all over his body by a K-9. The plaintiff was allowed to go forward with individual capacity suits.

    Did this happen? Is it excessive to beat a backseat passenger about the face and head when he's not resisting, and then let the K-9 dog bite him over and over all about his person, when he is on the floor and not resisting?

    Hands up, don't shoot!
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    Mar 18, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
    jo2hotbod saidI never knew an innocent person who found it necessary to attempt to disarm a police officer, it's a bad move when you're guilty never mind innocent.


    ^^^THIS^^^
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    Mar 18, 2015 9:20 PM GMT
    Svnw688 saidEugene McAllister v. Ferguson Police Department, et al., No. 4:13-CV-2492-CEJ (E.D.Mo. Mar. 14, 2014). A COMPLIANT backseat passenger brought a 1983 claim after being beaten about the neck and face, and then being bitten all over his body by a K-9. The plaintiff was allowed to go forward with individual capacity suits.

    Did this happen? Is it excessive to beat a backseat passenger about the face and head when he's not resisting, and then let the K-9 dog bite him over and over all about his person, when he is on the floor and not resisting?

    Hands up, don't shoot!


    Yes, it's excessive force, and the City and the individual officer should be liable for it.

    However, it doesn't change the fact that the "Hands up, don't shoot!" meme was based on a lie by one of the witnesses in the Brown death.
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    Mar 18, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
    it would seem to me that if you have a never ending problem that is much too large for you to change, you should change yourself based on the given facts.

    people in suits almost never get arrested. go to goodwill and buy several...wear them

    if you are black and almost everyone else you live with is black...dont live there, it attracts racist cops

    if you want to do illegal things in a high crime area...dont especially if you are black. it may not be fair that others get more leniency, but at least play by the rules yourself, you are not responsible for what others get away with. I believe if you google it, even JESUS has a parable about this (something about paying people to work all day, and then some less, and some just an hour, and all get paid the same and he calls it fair because they agree and he is feeling generous).

    almost all criminals shop at tiny food/snack stores. there is absolutely nothing you need there, if you want to avoid arrest, never go there.

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    yes is sucks to have to avoid things because of other idiots, but if a whole community would get supportive of a few things, the problem might just get solved faster.

    As a last gasp...move to where all the enforcement officials look like you...or get on the bandwagon for that to happen locally, go or pay others to go to school to be in enforcement and be the best candidates.

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    Mar 18, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
    With all this talk about policing, can we all agree that it would be much nicer if RJ did a better job of policing the forum topics to prevent duplicate threads from springing up?
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Apparition saidit would seem to me that if you have a never ending problem that is much too large for you to change, you should change yourself based on the given facts.

    people in suits almost never get arrested. go to goodwill and buy several...wear them

    if you are black and almost everyone else you live with is black...dont live there, it attracts racist cops

    if you want to do illegal things in a high crime area...dont especially if you are black. it may not be fair that others get more leniency, but at least play by the rules yourself, you are not responsible for what others get away with. I believe if you google it, even JESUS has a parable about this (something about paying people to work all day, and then some less, and some just an hour, and all get paid the same and he calls it fair because they agree and he is feeling generous).

    almost all criminals shop at tiny food/snack stores. there is absolutely nothing you need there, if you want to avoid arrest, never go there.

    ------

    yes is sucks to have to avoid things because of other idiots, but if a whole community would get supportive of a few things, the problem might just get solved faster.

    As a last gasp...move to where all the enforcement officials look like you...or get on the bandwagon for that to happen locally, go or pay others to go to school to be in enforcement and be the best candidates.



    icon_lol.gif seriously? There is so many things wrong with this.

    you obviously don't understand the concept of institutional racism and the history of racism in this country such as the demonization of black males which goes back to slavery. Maybe you should learn that first as your post demonstrates that you don't know about that.

    There's nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as you're willing to learn from it but chances are you're set in your ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.


    Demonization of black males you say?

    Well maybe you can start by not being another one of those black males that America fears.

    You are an angry, violent, mentally unstable and not to mention unemployed. How exactly are you making things better?

    Because you certainly aren't doing anything to improve yourself or your community.

    YOU are the reason why America fears black males Spazzy. YOU. Don't you get understand that by now????
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Apparition saidit would seem to me that if you have a never ending problem that is much too large for you to change, you should change yourself based on the given facts.

    people in suits almost never get arrested. go to goodwill and buy several...wear them

    if you are black and almost everyone else you live with is black...dont live there, it attracts racist cops

    if you want to do illegal things in a high crime area...dont especially if you are black. it may not be fair that others get more leniency, but at least play by the rules yourself, you are not responsible for what others get away with. I believe if you google it, even JESUS has a parable about this (something about paying people to work all day, and then some less, and some just an hour, and all get paid the same and he calls it fair because they agree and he is feeling generous).

    almost all criminals shop at tiny food/snack stores. there is absolutely nothing you need there, if you want to avoid arrest, never go there.

    ------

    yes is sucks to have to avoid things because of other idiots, but if a whole community would get supportive of a few things, the problem might just get solved faster.

    As a last gasp...move to where all the enforcement officials look like you...or get on the bandwagon for that to happen locally, go or pay others to go to school to be in enforcement and be the best candidates.



    icon_lol.gif seriously? There is so many things wrong with this.

    you obviously don't understand the concept of institutional racism and the history of racism in this country such as the demonization of black males which goes back to slavery. Maybe you should learn that first as your post demonstrates that you don't know about that.

    There's nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as you're willing to learn from it but chances are you're set in your ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.



    it appears that you failed to note what it actually said, to change yourself to be the "exception" ot the targets of "institutional racism" and the encouragement to "become the institution", you demonize all you want but if you are the EASY target you have only yourself to blame if you, know about a problem, and do nothing yourself to keep yourself at the low probability end of being a victim in the "herd".

    "I only a little weed" but the white guy "had a lot of weed" still means you had weed, and you are the easy one in the herd.

    try googling an image of a black guy in a suit getting arrested, it is very difficult. now try googling a guy with no shirt, or baggy pants sagging, or oversized sport shirt with huge running shoes...boom every image. Try not to be the easy victim and you can make others the victim and be pretty much a white guy.

    for instance compare the arrests of black ins "south side..X", dont live in a town where anyone says there is a "south side", constant police harassment in your mostly black town, try buttfuck idaho where you would be the ONLY black guy. nothing keeping you where you live. not a lot of gang driveby's in february in rural minneapolis.
  • Eli_jah

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    Mar 18, 2015 10:57 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]bobbobbob said[/cite]
    jmusmc85 said

    Seriously sweetie, after reading this it truly makes me wonder about your sanity. So much anger and resentment built up towards people you don't even know is troubling. Please seek help. The world isn't as cold and terrible as you make it out to be. Not everybody is out to get you.


    +100 except for the use of the word sweetie as applied to a neurotic little worm.


    Pazzy, you really are unbalanced. I feel sorry for you but I won't cry one damned tear if you stumbled out in front of a bus tomorrow. I'll just chalk it up to your doing your part in your own way to make the world a better place with your absence in it.


    Here's a picture of Jonathan Capehart.

    capehart2.jpg?red=dc

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    What a disgusting thing to say to someone. But your lack of empathy is compatible with your bigotry, not surprised.
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    Mar 18, 2015 11:04 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 said
    pazzy said
    Apparition saidit would seem to me that if you have a never ending problem that is much too large for you to change, you should change yourself based on the given facts.

    people in suits almost never get arrested. go to goodwill and buy several...wear them

    if you are black and almost everyone else you live with is black...dont live there, it attracts racist cops

    if you want to do illegal things in a high crime area...dont especially if you are black. it may not be fair that others get more leniency, but at least play by the rules yourself, you are not responsible for what others get away with. I believe if you google it, even JESUS has a parable about this (something about paying people to work all day, and then some less, and some just an hour, and all get paid the same and he calls it fair because they agree and he is feeling generous).

    almost all criminals shop at tiny food/snack stores. there is absolutely nothing you need there, if you want to avoid arrest, never go there.

    ------

    yes is sucks to have to avoid things because of other idiots, but if a whole community would get supportive of a few things, the problem might just get solved faster.

    As a last gasp...move to where all the enforcement officials look like you...or get on the bandwagon for that to happen locally, go or pay others to go to school to be in enforcement and be the best candidates.



    icon_lol.gif seriously? There is so many things wrong with this.

    you obviously don't understand the concept of institutional racism and the history of racism in this country such as the demonization of black males which goes back to slavery. Maybe you should learn that first as your post demonstrates that you don't know about that.

    There's nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as you're willing to learn from it but chances are you're set in your ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.


    Demonization of black males you say?

    Well maybe you can start by not being another one of those black males that America fears.

    You are an angry, violent, mentally unstable and not to mention unemployed. How exactly are you making things better?

    Because you certainly aren't doing anything to improve yourself or your community.

    YOU are the reason why America fears black males Spazzy. YOU. Don't you get understand that by now????


    America fears black males because of social conditioning and the history of racial propaganda in this country. One man cannot represent an entire group of people. Does Jeffrey Dahmer represent the average white gay male? No.

    You really need to educate yourself on the history of your country before you speak.
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    Mar 18, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
    Mulignan said
    You really need to educate yourself on the history of your country before you speak.

    They don't need no ed-gee-kay-shun. They got their white sheets and Bibles to tell them every answer they need to know. And that's why the US is in danger of going right down the drain. But at least these guys will be singing righteous hymns while they do. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 18, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
    Mulignan said
    jmusmc85 said
    pazzy said
    Apparition saidit would seem to me that if you have a never ending problem that is much too large for you to change, you should change yourself based on the given facts.

    people in suits almost never get arrested. go to goodwill and buy several...wear them

    if you are black and almost everyone else you live with is black...dont live there, it attracts racist cops

    if you want to do illegal things in a high crime area...dont especially if you are black. it may not be fair that others get more leniency, but at least play by the rules yourself, you are not responsible for what others get away with. I believe if you google it, even JESUS has a parable about this (something about paying people to work all day, and then some less, and some just an hour, and all get paid the same and he calls it fair because they agree and he is feeling generous).

    almost all criminals shop at tiny food/snack stores. there is absolutely nothing you need there, if you want to avoid arrest, never go there.

    ------

    yes is sucks to have to avoid things because of other idiots, but if a whole community would get supportive of a few things, the problem might just get solved faster.

    As a last gasp...move to where all the enforcement officials look like you...or get on the bandwagon for that to happen locally, go or pay others to go to school to be in enforcement and be the best candidates.



    icon_lol.gif seriously? There is so many things wrong with this.

    you obviously don't understand the concept of institutional racism and the history of racism in this country such as the demonization of black males which goes back to slavery. Maybe you should learn that first as your post demonstrates that you don't know about that.

    There's nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as you're willing to learn from it but chances are you're set in your ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.


    Demonization of black males you say?

    Well maybe you can start by not being another one of those black males that America fears.

    You are an angry, violent, mentally unstable and not to mention unemployed. How exactly are you making things better?

    Because you certainly aren't doing anything to improve yourself or your community.

    YOU are the reason why America fears black males Spazzy. YOU. Don't you get understand that by now????


    America fears black males because of social conditioning and the history of racial propaganda in this country. One man cannot represent an entire group of people. Does Jeffrey Dahmer represent the average white gay male? No.

    You really need to educate yourself on the history of your country before you speak.


    I know Spaz doesn't represent the community as a whole. But he certainly isn't helping when he represents all that he says doesn't exist.

    You have to admit it's odd. I don't harp on you because you seem mature, educated, and have a head on your shoulder.

    But when the likes of Spazzy is the only person defending his crazy off beat arguments while at the same time being a leech on the system. It's almost laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.
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    Mar 18, 2015 11:40 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Mulignan said
    jmusmc85 said
    pazzy said
    Apparition saidit would seem to me that if you have a never ending problem that is much too large for you to change, you should change yourself based on the given facts.

    people in suits almost never get arrested. go to goodwill and buy several...wear them

    if you are black and almost everyone else you live with is black...dont live there, it attracts racist cops

    if you want to do illegal things in a high crime area...dont especially if you are black. it may not be fair that others get more leniency, but at least play by the rules yourself, you are not responsible for what others get away with. I believe if you google it, even JESUS has a parable about this (something about paying people to work all day, and then some less, and some just an hour, and all get paid the same and he calls it fair because they agree and he is feeling generous).

    almost all criminals shop at tiny food/snack stores. there is absolutely nothing you need there, if you want to avoid arrest, never go there.

    ------

    yes is sucks to have to avoid things because of other idiots, but if a whole community would get supportive of a few things, the problem might just get solved faster.

    As a last gasp...move to where all the enforcement officials look like you...or get on the bandwagon for that to happen locally, go or pay others to go to school to be in enforcement and be the best candidates.



    icon_lol.gif seriously? There is so many things wrong with this.

    you obviously don't understand the concept of institutional racism and the history of racism in this country such as the demonization of black males which goes back to slavery. Maybe you should learn that first as your post demonstrates that you don't know about that.

    There's nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as you're willing to learn from it but chances are you're set in your ways and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.


    Demonization of black males you say?

    Well maybe you can start by not being another one of those black males that America fears.

    You are an angry, violent, mentally unstable and not to mention unemployed. How exactly are you making things better?

    Because you certainly aren't doing anything to improve yourself or your community.

    YOU are the reason why America fears black males Spazzy. YOU. Don't you get understand that by now????


    America fears black males because of social conditioning and the history of racial propaganda in this country. One man cannot represent an entire group of people. Does Jeffrey Dahmer represent the average white gay male? No.

    You really need to educate yourself on the history of your country before you speak.


    Why even speak to that clown? He's hopeless. he really thinks that as a Latino male that he's in a different league than us black males when the folks that he's piggybacking on will throw him in the bushes as they hate Latinos too. Yet I noticed a lot of Latinos especially the ones that are mixed and Black even stay trying to deny any black ancestry and all begging for white people to accept them. He probably ready to shit on folks like him who are Mexican coming over the border talking about how they're illegal aliens and how he's american Yet he doesn't understand that the whole border control shit is against the Hispanic/Latino community which is growi ng to the point where its starting to threaten the majority population of whites in this country. It's the same bs with the whole ms 13 nonsense they were bringing up awhile back.

    The biggest group I know of that does that shit are Dominicans. Im sitting cracking on this black woman back when the trayvon Martin verdict was dropped was all saying that she wasn't black but she was Dominican.

    Jonny is a hopeless individual though.



    breh, bro, real talk, breh.....speak English you nutcase!