growingbig saidI agree that they are not actual christians. What is sad is that actual christians get influenced by them.
growingbig saidI agree that they are not actual christians. What is sad is that actual christians get influenced by them.
cjcscuba1984 saidThere is a vocal minority out there trying to tell us we like little boys, have sex with anything with a penis, and are going to Hell for enteral damnation.
Then there is a Silent majority who either... could care less about gay people... or fight/ support our rights.
Seriously... the vocal minority won in Cali because they are organized and spread lies....
FirefighterBlu3 saidsometimes i think christians get all hot and bothered because we have such a fun life, make far more money on average and basically just really enjoy life a hell of a lot more than they do.
and they're upset because they have so much penitence, sins to atone for, prostration, self punishment, self loathing, repression of pretty much anything pleasurable, and the big list goes on.
sorta looks like we got all the toys and they got a lump of coal.
treader saidBecome a Buddhist. We were here long before the Christians.
Seriously, that's what I did. Meditation and yoga are both good for you. Although Buddhism has not formally accepted homosexuality as far as I know. (The Dalai Lama is still 'thinking' about gay marriage.) Most groups are pretty cool about it or completely accepted it.
Grew up Catholic and just felt like I needed to move on from Christianity. (Been there. Done that.) Buddhism is less structured. It's 'holy' book has the same problems as the Bible. It has its eccentric factions too. (Chant for that new house while looking into our sacred scroll! Oh, no thanks.)
Buddhism does seem to be more of a philosophy on how to live your live rather than a religion - which is not a bad thing...
Global_Citizen saidReligion is and always has been a social construct. It played a role in community development and organization, just as it does today.
It organized people into social units (us vs. them), gave comfort to those who needed help or had financial hardship (the church will take care of you in a time of need), and what we see still very prominently today, appropriated for itself the right to dictate moral norms and punish those who refuse abide by the church's strictures.
And once you realize this, that the church really is nothing more than man's own social construction (more interesting to anthropologists than theologians), you start to realize the whole idea of "God" is no less of a mythology for the modern western world than were Zeus and Apollo to the ancient Mediterranean world.
And no one alive today would consider it heretical to deny the deity of Zeus.
Damarco saidI say be what you want to be, Luther. If being a Christian fulfills you then be one. No one owns Christianity despite what most of the Christians think. If you find the tenets of Christianity comforting then why not take comfort in it?
For me, I happen to think that Christianity requires a lot of editing. You've got to overlook a lot of things that are pretty prejudicial and narrowminded (like a woman must be silent in the church). Jesus had wonderful teachings but the Apostle Paul--a single man his whole life--wrote some pretty homophobic things as well. If you can separate the wheat from the chaff then it might work for you.
I used to be a Christian and I don't miss it at all. I don't consider myself any faith right now, but because my closest friends are Reform Jews, I participate in a lot of services and activities at the local synagogue. I really enjoy my involvement there.
Taoism and Buddhism offer beautiful philosophy that is hate free. Who says yo can't mix it up. There is no way any human being can wrap his mind around the idea of God, so why not try everything and see what works for you?
Matt 715"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.and also
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
John13 34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."But wait!! there's more just to make it clear
John 1512 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you ..
17 This is my command: Love each other.
czarodziej saidworship satan on weekends and flip off the christians with obnoxious bumper-stickers during weekdays :p
Luthergooch saidConsidering that most Christians hate us...; it too general of a statement.
Rad_d81 saida lot believe that when the tower of babel was destroyed, and people split up, and went about their ways, they brought a lot of those beliefs with them.
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