The Ouija

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    Feb 21, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    You know Satyricon331, the forums get a lot easier to enjoy once you click to ignore his posts
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    Feb 21, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
    Brit_Bloke said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    Of course you don't have to believe in God to believe in evil. Is there a God? Dunno. Was Hitler evil?


    You can only state Hitler was evil if you have an objective good measure against which to judge his actions.

    If God doesn't exist then Hitler's action was not necessarily evil. Against what measure will you be using to determine Hitler's evil if objective good doesn't therefore exist?
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    Feb 21, 2010 7:08 PM GMT
    So I never really believed in this stuff, and I'm still not sure I do... but we bought one of those cheap glow in the dark ones at Toys R Us and my friends younger sister was using it. I was convinced it was crap, along with my friends older sister, and we were making fun of the ppl using it. My friends older sister decided she'd try and ask it something while they were "talking to their dead grandma." She asked what she said to her while they were alone in the hospital room just before they died, and I guess the correct answer was given to her because she started crying and left... lol. Creepy stuff.
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    Feb 21, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    Satyricon331 said
    MadeNUSA said
    Satyricon331 said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    And oh, yes, belief in God is necessary to believe in good and evil icon_rolleyes.gif


    Of course it is. Too obvious to you is that it?icon_rolleyes.gif


    I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to go over your head. It was unfair of me not to anticipate its location given how your statements so clearly indicated it.


    Isn't there a Ouija board for you to go play with?
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    Feb 21, 2010 9:01 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    GOD WARRIOR

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    Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    You do the hokey-pokey and you turn yourself around.

    That's what it's all about!
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    Feb 21, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    Brit_Bloke said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    Of course you don't have to believe in God to believe in evil. Is there a God? Dunno. Was Hitler evil?


    You can only state Hitler was evil if you have an objective good measure against which to judge his actions.

    If God doesn't exist then Hitler's action was not necessarily evil. Against what measure will you be using to determine Hitler's evil if objective good doesn't therefore exist?


    OH my, You are right. No-one in the history of human thought has ever thought about this before. We all need Jesus so the church can tell us what is right and wrong. There´s just no other way of doing it. icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative_ethics



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    Feb 21, 2010 9:06 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?






    HEY! I saw her at the TEA Party!!!
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    Feb 21, 2010 9:07 PM GMT
    Dude, I'm not spiritual/religious at all, but if there is one thing I've learned, and I happened to learn it the hard way, its this:

    DON'T GET A OUIJA BOARD!!!!

    not unless you WANT to constantly be dealing with a bunch of demonic spiritual entities.
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    Feb 21, 2010 9:09 PM GMT
    Sayrnas said"Spirits that haunt this house!...Come out! And play wit me!"


    Ahahaha. "Spirits that haunt this house! Tell me! What was we talkin 'bout." "My sister's baby"
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    Feb 21, 2010 9:14 PM GMT
    I've played Ouija a couple times in high school and freshman year in the dorms, its proven pretty spooky and I've had a couple instances where something pretty crazy happens that makes your eyes water. But I'm alive, not cursed, and not currently being haunted so I say go for it.
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    Feb 22, 2010 6:18 AM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    Brit_Bloke said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    Of course you don't have to believe in God to believe in evil. Is there a God? Dunno. Was Hitler evil?


    You can only state Hitler was evil if you have an objective good measure against which to judge his actions.

    If God doesn't exist then Hitler's action was not necessarily evil. Against what measure will you be using to determine Hitler's evil if objective good doesn't therefore exist?


    Well, at least this thread established that reincarnation is real.

    MadeNUSA is clearly the reincarnation of Euthyphro. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 22, 2010 6:21 AM GMT
    This thread is useless without more DETAILED first hand stories!



    This is like Hoodoo.... it only works if you believe in it.
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    Feb 22, 2010 6:31 AM GMT
    I recall in Junior High, a bunch of friends and I playing it (Ouija) at lunch. Yep, got in trouble and the board was taken away cuz we where scaring the other childrenicon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 22, 2010 3:26 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    Brit_Bloke said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    Of course you don't have to believe in God to believe in evil. Is there a God? Dunno. Was Hitler evil?


    You can only state Hitler was evil if you have an objective good measure against which to judge his actions.

    If God doesn't exist then Hitler's action was not necessarily evil. Against what measure will you be using to determine Hitler's evil if objective good doesn't therefore exist?


    This is such a bizzarely nonsensical statement that even I don't have a comeback icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 22, 2010 5:04 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    Brit_Bloke said
    MadeNUSA saidWhy stay away?

    If you don't believe God exists how can you believe that evil and demons exist? I say go get your freak on with the board! All the bad things if they happen - well you've just imagined them...


    Of course you don't have to believe in God to believe in evil. Is there a God? Dunno. Was Hitler evil?


    You can only state Hitler was evil if you have an objective good measure against which to judge his actions.

    If God doesn't exist then Hitler's action was not necessarily evil. Against what measure will you be using to determine Hitler's evil if objective good doesn't therefore exist?



    HAHAHA. What if the gauge of good versus evil is based on the degree of humanity ranging from at its best (generosity) to at its worst (genocide)? There's no God in that, yet aptly identifies good and evil.
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    Feb 22, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
    czarodziej saidthe ouija board is, as most use it, the metaphysical equivalent to unprotected sex, because you're inviting a spiritual entity without any divine authority or control over it, and with nothing to bind it or protect oneself. in traditional operations of spirit evocation the world over, there is usually a magickal circle or square or mandala, the magician stands in to protect himself, or at the least there are talismans and divine presences that are activated to protect him. in medieval goetic demon evocation, not only are the circle, talismans, and divine authority activated and invoked, but the demon being conjured is called into a triangle outside of the circle, that further binds it away from the magician, like a small prison cage. -all of this is very different from the middle school sleepover party scenario that the ouija board often finds itself in. that's not to say you can't use one effectively, if you know what you're doing.

    first, erect a circle, about 9' diameter. this can be drawn in chalk, laid out in rope, or made of salt. it helps if you write divine names around it too, but that's more advanced. once its set, empower it to set the place apart as sacred and unbreachable by anything willing you harm, which is often done with intense visualization, and/or a mantra or prayer.

    light a candle and invoke divine guidance and protection into the light.

    burn a good incense- don't use the sticks, actually burn the real deal on a coal- a good all-purpose combination is frankincense, myrrh, and dragons-blood. other things can be added depending on the planetary associations of the spirit being summoned.

    these things being done, make a petition to deity to grant you the power and authority to call and control your chosen spirit. then begin the conjuration.

    when you feel like you're not alone any more, you aren't. it may manifest somehow, but usually (for me) its mostly an intense feeling of not being alone any more, or of something looming just over my shoulder- sometimes the air pressure changes suddenly and my ears pop, or the temperature drops, or the candle flame gutters violently.

    when you're done asking your questions, make sure to dismiss the spirit thankfully, and make a closing prayer to deity, thanking it for its support of your operation.

    final notes: it often helps to pray and fast the day before and of the operation, or for longer depending on the power of the spirit being called, to purify oneself for the ordeal. also, dont' ever sacrifice or give anything, or make any pacts- approach the spirit with an air of authority.



    While this guy seems to know what he's talking about I would follow outkast1728's advice. Don't do it. You never know what you would be summoning. I mean that would be like calling a phone number - any number and saying 'is this dad?' what is to stop them from saying yes.!?
    So if you must then plan ahead and prepare.
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    Feb 22, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
    Brit_Bloke saidThis is such a bizzarely nonsensical statement that even I don't have a comeback icon_rolleyes.gif


    It´s actually quite a common move by conservative christian apologists... It´s very persuasive for certain personality types, but it assumes that everyone needs the same sort of wild eyed certainty that the christian right deals in.
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    Feb 23, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    Wow, I didn't realize Parker Bros. held the key to the spiritual world. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 23, 2010 5:10 AM GMT
    Whatever you do, do not play it alone or you will become possessed icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 25, 2010 5:15 AM GMT
    ametroguy saidWhatever you do, do not play it alone or you will become possessed icon_eek.gif


    Please, the last demon that tried to possess me is still in therapy.
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    Feb 25, 2010 2:14 PM GMT
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    cobra2814 saidWow, I didn't realize Parker Bros. held the key to the spiritual world. icon_lol.gif


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    Like religon / cults and other false belief systems, this toy has long held a fascination for some.

    It works via the power of suggestion of the person driving it, and their associated actions. There are no mysterious powers. Nope, God still isn't real. Just more malarkey. Hate to tell you, but, that's the TRUTH.
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    Oct 19, 2015 3:26 AM GMT
    I want to play with one so bad, sounds like funicon_smile.gif