Miami / Ft. Lauderdale

  • boomle

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    Feb 01, 2018 6:12 AM GMT
    Hey Guys!

    My BF and I are going on a cruise with Royal Caribbean leaving from Port Everglades September 2 2018.

    We are already flying to Ft. Lauderdale airport a week before, so we are currently trying to figure out what to do for the week.

    Do you guys have any suggestions? We would both like to go shopping, dinning, partying and just have a good time. Should we only stay in Ft. Lauderdale or also go to Miami?

    Any advice about hotels to stay at, things to do etc. is appreciated! icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 02, 2018 7:18 AM GMT
    Ft. Lauderdale is my hometown. I can confirm Plooje's point from above. Ft. Lauderdale has a gay neighborhood called Wilton Manners. There it good nightlife there but it is mostly older crowds and bears. On Friday nights, at the Manor, which is the most popular club in that neighborhood, there is a younger crowd and free entry before 11 with a FL ID. Other than that, all the night life is at the beach or downtown by the riverwalk. If you want a really packed and party gay atmosphere, go to Miami. If you like shopping, I suggest Sawgrass Mall which is about 15-20 minutes from Ft. Lauderdale depending where you stay. It is one of the largest malls in the United States. I don't know what you like to eat but you can't go wrong with some spanish food from an authentic restaurant in the area. For touristy things, I suggest a boat tour of Ft. Lauderdale. You go through Downtown Ft. Lauderdale, port Everglades and the beach and learn about the city and all the famous people that live there. Some of the tours have dinner and a show included. If you're adventurous, try a tour of the Everglades. There is also a park that is near Hollywood beach that you can canoe by Mangrove trees but it is fresh water. If you need anything else, feel free to message me privately. Would love to share more advice.
  • Nando100

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    May 06, 2018 5:22 PM GMT
    I'll be coming to Miami Beach this summer!!! Hoping to meet some hot guys and have some fun!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 11, 2020 3:47 PM GMT
    Seminoleboy27 saidFt. Lauderdale is my hometown. I can confirm Plooje's point from above. Ft. Lauderdale has a gay neighborhood called Wilton Manners. There it good nightlife there but it is mostly older crowds and bears. On Friday nights, at the Manor, which is the most popular club in that neighborhood, there is a younger crowd and free entry before 11 with a FL ID. Other than that, all the night life is at the beach or downtown by the riverwalk. If you want a really packed and party gay atmosphere, go to Miami. If you like shopping, I suggest Sawgrass Mall which is about 15-20 minutes from Ft. Lauderdale depending where you stay. It is one of the largest malls in the United States. I don't know what you like to eat but you can't go wrong with some spanish food from an authentic restaurant in the area. For touristy things, I suggest a boat tour of Ft. Lauderdale. You go through Downtown Ft. Lauderdale, port Everglades and the beach and learn about the city and all the famous people that live there. Some of the tours have dinner and a show included. If you're adventurous, try a tour of the Everglades. There is also a park that is near Hollywood beach that you can canoe by Mangrove trees but it is fresh water. If you need anything else, feel free to message me privately. Would love to share more advice.
    I thought that Wilton Manors was a separate municipality, a suburb of Fort Lauderdaleicon_neutral.gif
  • ObscureAndFuz...

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    Jul 11, 2020 4:15 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Seminoleboy27 saidFt. Lauderdale is my hometown. I can confirm Plooje's point from above. Ft. Lauderdale has a gay neighborhood called Wilton Manners. There it good nightlife there but it is mostly older crowds and bears. On Friday nights, at the Manor, which is the most popular club in that neighborhood, there is a younger crowd and free entry before 11 with a FL ID. Other than that, all the night life is at the beach or downtown by the riverwalk. If you want a really packed and party gay atmosphere, go to Miami. If you like shopping, I suggest Sawgrass Mall which is about 15-20 minutes from Ft. Lauderdale depending where you stay. It is one of the largest malls in the United States. I don't know what you like to eat but you can't go wrong with some spanish food from an authentic restaurant in the area. For touristy things, I suggest a boat tour of Ft. Lauderdale. You go through Downtown Ft. Lauderdale, port Everglades and the beach and learn about the city and all the famous people that live there. Some of the tours have dinner and a show included. If you're adventurous, try a tour of the Everglades. There is also a park that is near Hollywood beach that you can canoe by Mangrove trees but it is fresh water. If you need anything else, feel free to message me privately. Would love to share more advice.
    I thought that Wilton Manors was a separate municipality, a suburb of Fort Lauderdale


    Been to the area there many times, most recently last year. My husband is from Miami.

    Wilton Manors is a tiny, rundown town consisting of a very large majority of old, WHITE gay and bisexual men adjacent to the city of Ft. Lauderdale.

    There is about a two block stretch that has been "revitalized" which is the "downtown core" of the town. The rest is very lower-middle income.

    This is in stark contrast to other towns in the area such as Hollywood, Pembroke Pines, Cooper City and Miramar. All very nice places.

    Further south is the very nice areas in Miami-Dade county including Aventura, Sunny Isles Beach, Miami Shores and the beautiful neighborhood El Portal.

    Coral Gables is further south and also very nice.

    My advice would be to stay a day in the Fort Lauderdale area, but spend the rest of your time down in Miami-Dade. Oh, and a car is a must.
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    I thought that Wilton Manors was a separate municipality, a suburb of Fort Lauderdaleicon_neutral.gif

    Correct. Wilton Manors has its own elected City Council & Mayor (all gay at the moment), its own police force, its own city services, its own elections. It's been a separately incorporated town since 1947.

    It is NOT a subdivision of Fort Lauderdale as some people think, which is does adjoin on the north. Interestingly, the Mayor of Fort Lauderdale has his law office in Wilton Manors, but lives in Fort Lauderdale.

    We’d love to vote for him (he’s our personal attorney), but we can’t, since we’re not Fort Lauderdale citizens. Nor can he vote in our Wilton Manors elections.
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    Wilton Manors is a tiny, rundown town consisting of a very large majority of old, WHITE gay and bisexual men adjacent to the city of Ft. Lauderdale.

    There is about a two block stretch that has been "revitalized" which is the "downtown core" of the town. The rest is very lower-middle income...

    ...My advice would be to stay a day in the Fort Lauderdale area, but spend the rest of your time down in Miami-Dade. Oh, and a car is a must.

    Some corrections, from someone who has lived here for 13 years. Rundown town? Check the real estate and rental prices.

    The “revitalized” section of Wilton Drive is actually a mile long, not 2 blocks. And Wilton Manors is “gay central” for South Florida. All our straight media says so. Not Miami Beach, definitely not Miami, nor Fort Lauderdale. Some good night spots in all of them, but straight, not gay.

    Fort Lauderdale has some good gay guest houses, mostly on or branching off N Birch Rd, a couple blocks in from the beach. But mainly small places that offer nothing but rooms, and aside from the beach itself, that’s a good walk away, there’s no gay life.

    Wilton Manors, 4 miles away, has about 6 gay guest houses. Not great ones, but you’re not supposed to stay in your room. I recommend to guys that you stay in Wilton Manors, and visit the beach by Uber. There’s no place to park anyway. You stay half the day then return.

    At night you bar crawl on the Drive, no car needed. All the guest houses except one (The Cabanas) are very near, so you can walk (or stagger) back, no DUI or parking hassle issues.

    Of course right now all this is thrown out of whack with the coronavirus. Some gay bars are totally closed, others that have food service are required to make you buy a meal in order to get a drink. And the beaches have been closed or restricted. Flying down here is very questionable.

    So this advice is for later, when we are free of this Trump plague.
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    Jul 11, 2020 5:37 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    Wilton Manors is a tiny, rundown town consisting of a very large majority of old, WHITE gay and bisexual men adjacent to the city of Ft. Lauderdale.

    There is about a two block stretch that has been "revitalized" which is the "downtown core" of the town. The rest is very lower-middle income...

    ...My advice would be to stay a day in the Fort Lauderdale area, but spend the rest of your time down in Miami-Dade. Oh, and a car is a must.

    Some corrections, from someone who has lived here for 13 years. Rundown town? Check the real estate and rental prices.

    The “revitalized” section of Wilton Drive is actually a mile long, not 2 blocks. And Wilton Manors is “gay central” for South Florida. All our straight media says so. Not Miami Beach, definitely not Miami, nor Fort Lauderdale. Some good night spots in all of them, but straight, not gay.

    Fort Lauderdale has some good gay guest houses, mostly on or branching off N Birch Rd, a couple blocks in from the beach. But mainly small places that offer nothing but rooms, and aside from the beach itself, that’s a good walk away, there’s no gay life.

    Wilton Manors, 4 miles away, has about 6 gay guest houses. Not great ones, but you’re not supposed to stay in your room. I recommend to guys that you stay in Wilton Manors, and visit the beach by Uber. There’s no place to park anyway. You stay half the day then return.

    At night you bar crawl on the Drive, no car needed. All the guest houses except one (The Cabanas) are very near, so you can walk (or stagger) back, no DUI or parking hassle issues.

    Of course right now all this is thrown out of whack with the coronavirus. Some gay bars are totally closed, others that have food service are required to make you buy a meal in order to get a drink. And the beaches have been closed or restricted. Flying down here is very questionable.

    So this advice is for later, when we are free of this Trump plague.




    Guess you don't get out of Wilton Manors much. Or you have become desensitized to the dumpiness of the town because you live there.

    We lived in Miami for 5 years (Brickell) and if we must make it political, during the Obama plague. Compare Wilton Manors to any of the towns I mentioned earlier and it's like third world squalor (Wilton Manors) vs first world (the places I mentioned).

    And Wilton Manors is lily WHITE and OLD.
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    Guess you don't get out of Wilton Manors much. Or you have become desensitized to the dumpiness of the town because you live there.

    We lived in Miami for 5 years (Brickell) and if we must make it political, during the Obama plague. Compare Wilton Manors to any of the towns I mentioned earlier and it's like third world squalor (Wilton Manors) vs first world (the places I mentioned).

    And Wilton Manors is lily WHITE and OLD.

    We’re having a Black friend over to our place next week. She just moved into a building literally within sight of us here in WM, good friend of ours whom we want to welcome to our neighborhood. I see Black people in Wilton Manors every day, including today when we were out.

    We had lunch today at a gay café, and our server was a Latino, second generation. So was the bartender who made our drinks, whom we’ve known for 13 years. And go to social parties with.

    Then after lunch we went to a liquor store, to get him some rum he needed for a cake he just made an hour ago. It’s run by Pakistanis. Yesterday, with our lobbying, a friend of ours signed a contract with them to carry his start-up vodka brand.

    A lily white town? Like your ass. And older? Perhaps a little, but not much, due to gay retirees, like ourselves.

    What’s wrong with that? At night Wilton Manors attracts a young crowd from as far south as Miami and as far north as Palm Beach. Who just want the best gay clubs in the area. Who gives a f**k who lives here?
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    Jul 11, 2020 8:25 PM GMT
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    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    Guess you don't get out of Wilton Manors much. Or you have become desensitized to the dumpiness of the town because you live there.

    We lived in Miami for 5 years (Brickell) and if we must make it political, during the Obama plague. Compare Wilton Manors to any of the towns I mentioned earlier and it's like third world squalor (Wilton Manors) vs first world (the places I mentioned).

    And Wilton Manors is lily WHITE and OLD.

    We’re having a Black friend over to our place next week. She just moved into a building literally within sight of us here in WM, good friend of ours whom we want to welcome to our neighborhood. I see Black people in Wilton Manors every day, including today when we were out.

    We had lunch today at a gay café, and our server was a Latino, second generation. So was the bartender who made our drinks, whom we’ve known for 13 years. And go to social parties with.

    Then after lunch we went to a liquor store, to get him some rum he needed for a cake he just made an hour ago. It’s run by Pakistanis. Yesterday, with our lobbying, a friend of ours signed a contract with them to carry his start-up vodka brand.

    A lily white town? Like your ass. And older? Perhaps a little, but not much, due to gay retirees, like ourselves.

    What’s wrong with that? At night Wilton Manors attracts a young crowd from as far south as Miami and as far north as Palm Beach. Who just want the best gay clubs in the area. Who gives a f**k who lives here?



    Yes, the old "some of my friends are black" defense.

    Sorry, doesn't cut it.

    I even checked the census records before I posted what I did, so that I wasn't going off of just anecdotal evidence.

    Wilton Manors Demographics

    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Wilton Manors was:

    White: 83.65%
    Black or African American: 12.49%
    Other race: 1.40%
    Two or more races: 1.21%
    Asian: 1.19%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%
    Native American: 0.00%

    Median age is OVER 50.

    To sum it up: OLD and WHITE.
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    Gay Ghettos were traditionally never on Prime Real Estate. Now the concept of the Gay Ghetto, seems rather outdated. Why you will see lots of walking sticks, and 4x4 walking frames around Willton; full of grumpy old men.
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    Gay Ghettos were traditionally never on Prime Real Estate. Now the concept of the Gay Ghetto, seems rather outdated. Why you will see lots of walking sticks, and 4x4 walking frames around Willton; full of grumpy old men.

    Have you been here? If not, then STFU.
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    Yes, the old "some of my friends are black" defense.

    Nice attempt at distorting what I meant for racist purposes. I was refuting that Wilton Manors is “lily white”. It’s not. Try another disingenuous approach.
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    Jul 12, 2020 5:54 PM GMT
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    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    Yes, the old "some of my friends are black" defense.

    Nice attempt at distorting what I meant for racist purposes. I was refuting that Wilton Manors is “lily white”. It’s not. Try another disingenuous approach.


    What part of this don't you understand?

    Wilton Manors Demographics

    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Wilton Manors was:

    White: 83.65%
    Black or African American: 12.49%
    Other race: 1.40%
    Two or more races: 1.21%
    Asian: 1.19%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%
    Native American: 0.00%

    Median age is OVER 50.


    To sum it up: OLD and WHITE.
  • KluckAndPluck

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    Jul 14, 2020 12:45 PM GMT
    Miami's very nice. A world class city. Ft. Lauderdale is nice in spots too but I have to agree that the 'gay central' Wilton Manors is pretty sketchy looking and full of old white guys. In all fairness, I only been to Wilton Manors once and was so turned off by it that I never bothered to go back on subsequent visits to the area.
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    What part of this don't you understand?

    Wilton Manors Demographics

    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Wilton Manors was:

    White: 83.65%
    Black or African American: 12.49%
    Other race: 1.40%
    Two or more races: 1.21%
    Asian: 1.19%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%
    Native American: 0.00%

    Median age is OVER 50.


    To sum it up: OLD and WHITE.

    I don’t understand where the Latinos are. Included in the “lily white”? A very big part of the scene here. I also know several tribal-affiated Seminoles who live here, not 0.00%, so these ACS numbers are flawed on that part alone. BTW, what is this ACS?

    Yes, our median age is 51.4 . But keep in mind those are residents. Like in much of South Florida the people you see at the gay clubs & bars come from all over, and are much younger at night. One club has “bubble gum” nights for 18-20, who get banded so they can’t have alcohol.

    A town of only 12,000 could not support the nightlife we have here. Nor have 2100 individual businesses, that rely on out-of-towners. You may talk static residential demographics, but you ignore the dynamics of this town.

    The part I really don't understand is how you think you can know more about Wilton Manors than those of us who live here. Ignorance is one thing, but arrogant & intentional ignorance is insufferable. But typical for trolls.
  • HikerCamper

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    Jul 15, 2020 2:26 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    What part of this don't you understand?

    Wilton Manors Demographics

    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Wilton Manors was:

    White: 83.65%
    Black or African American: 12.49%
    Other race: 1.40%
    Two or more races: 1.21%
    Asian: 1.19%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%
    Native American: 0.00%

    Median age is OVER 50.


    To sum it up: OLD and WHITE.

    I don’t understand where the Latinos are. Included in the “lily white”? A very big part of the scene here. I also know several tribal-affiated Seminoles who live here, not 0.00%, so these ACS numbers are flawed on that part alone. BTW, what is this ACS?

    Yes, our median age is 51.4 . But keep in mind those are residents. Like in much of South Florida the people you see at the gay clubs & bars come from all over, and are much younger at night. One club has “bubble gum” nights for 18-20, who get banded so they can’t have alcohol.

    A town of only 12,000 could not support the nightlife we have here. Nor have 2100 individual businesses, that rely on out-of-towners. You may talk static residential demographics, but you ignore the dynamics of this town.

    The part I really don't understand is how you think you can know more about Wilton Manors than those of us who live here. Ignorance is one thing, but arrogant & intentional ignorance is insufferable. But typical for trolls.



    On the one hand I see your point about them not breaking out the latino component of "white." I think we learned during the George Zimmerman case down there that latinos can be counted as "white" when it fits a particular political agenda. In that case, Zimmerman who is latino but the media chose to call him "white" to increase the "white man murders black kid" tensions.

    About knowing more about a place than those who live there. I quite often see people disparaging the southern states and very often they have never even visited them. Or they will claim to be some sort of authority on a particular state / city / region because they "used to live there." So someone might say, "Alabama is a backwards redneck state, I know because I had to live there for 5 years when I worked for XYZ Company." Does that person's statement have any validity TODAY?
  • ObscureAndFuz...

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    Jul 27, 2020 2:23 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    What part of this don't you understand?

    Wilton Manors Demographics

    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Wilton Manors was:

    White: 83.65%
    Black or African American: 12.49%
    Other race: 1.40%
    Two or more races: 1.21%
    Asian: 1.19%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%
    Native American: 0.00%

    Median age is OVER 50.


    To sum it up: OLD and WHITE.

    I don’t understand where the Latinos are. Included in the “lily white”? A very big part of the scene here. I also know several tribal-affiated Seminoles who live here, not 0.00%, so these ACS numbers are flawed on that part alone. BTW, what is this ACS?

    Yes, our median age is 51.4 . But keep in mind those are residents. Like in much of South Florida the people you see at the gay clubs & bars come from all over, and are much younger at night. One club has “bubble gum” nights for 18-20, who get banded so they can’t have alcohol.

    A town of only 12,000 could not support the nightlife we have here. Nor have 2100 individual businesses, that rely on out-of-towners. You may talk static residential demographics, but you ignore the dynamics of this town.

    The part I really don't understand is how you think you can know more about Wilton Manors than those of us who live here. Ignorance is one thing, but arrogant & intentional ignorance is insufferable. But typical for trolls.


    You do it all the time.


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    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    Art_Deco said
    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    What part of this don't you understand?

    Wilton Manors Demographics

    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Wilton Manors was:

    White: 83.65%
    Black or African American: 12.49%
    Other race: 1.40%
    Two or more races: 1.21%
    Asian: 1.19%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%
    Native American: 0.00%

    Median age is OVER 50.


    To sum it up: OLD and WHITE.

    I don’t understand where the Latinos are. Included in the “lily white”? A very big part of the scene here. I also know several tribal-affiated Seminoles who live here, not 0.00%, so these ACS numbers are flawed on that part alone. BTW, what is this ACS?

    Yes, our median age is 51.4 . But keep in mind those are residents. Like in much of South Florida the people you see at the gay clubs & bars come from all over, and are much younger at night. One club has “bubble gum” nights for 18-20, who get banded so they can’t have alcohol.

    A town of only 12,000 could not support the nightlife we have here. Nor have 2100 individual businesses, that rely on out-of-towners. You may talk static residential demographics, but you ignore the dynamics of this town.

    The part I really don't understand is how you think you can know more about Wilton Manors than those of us who live here. Ignorance is one thing, but arrogant & intentional ignorance is insufferable. But typical for trolls.


    You do it all the time.



    Strewth mate, with our Hyacinth's blotted sense of self importance. Yet Bob is a bisexual, who likes to tell homosexuals, that their not gay. When in fact it's our Hyacinth who's never been straight, or gay; just bi.
    Yet he's prompted himself as a gay marriaged man, who lives in the home of an older man in, Wilton Manor.
    Friends with benefits. Thus our Hyacinth's truth, can be very different to reality. Possibly the reason our old girl Hyacinth, only wants people at RJ, that agrees with her., because in her delusional mind, she is always right, and anybody who disagrees with ths Gay Bashing Bisexual, is a troll.
  • HikerCamper

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    Sep 03, 2020 2:04 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidThe part I really don't understand is how you think you can know more about Wilton Manors than those of us who live here. Ignorance is one thing, but arrogant & intentional ignorance is insufferable. But typical for trolls.



    I knew I had seen this before. But you're going on and on about how you lived in Seattle decades ago and that you KNOW what it's like up there these days. Uh huh.
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    Twomen_inlove said
    Gay Ghettos were traditionally never on Prime Real Estate. Now the concept of the Gay Ghetto, seems rather outdated. Why you will see lots of walking sticks, and 4x4 walking frames around Willton; full of grumpy old men.

    Have you been here? If not, then STFU.

    Well dear you've never been to Australia, yet comment on it whenever it suits you dear. Like most Gay Ghettos, Wilton Maners is no different. Situated in traditionally low rent, backwater suburbs.

    Also dear, As a Bonafide Homosexual, on a Gay Mens site, I'll comment on anything of interest, dear half brother.
    So let the boomerang come right back to you sista, with a: STFU dear.

    Also Sista recall when I attempted to meet up with you at Wilton, and being the mummy's boy you are, you didn't have the balls to meet up.

    But then you have had a lifelong struggle with truth, now haven't you dear. Thus not liking my truthful characterisation of Wilton during the day; so suck it up princess.