Sure sign of the apocalypse

  • bro4bro

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    Jan 28, 2020 4:31 AM GMT
    I watched a U of Maryland wrestling match on TV tonight. Instead of the traditional singlet, the UM wrestlers wore T-shirts and loose fitting shorts!

    Apparently a lot of high school programs have been doing this lately but this is the first year it's been allowed in the NCAA. Maryland is currently the only Division I team that subscribes to this abomination.

    It seems to be the work of their new head coach, Alex Clemsen, who was quoted as saying it's "a more fan-friendly look". In other words, he's personally uncomfortable with singlets. Not surprisingly, he describes himself (first and foremost) on his Twitter feed as a "Follower of Christ", and his latest tweet refers to "the young men I am blessed to coach". Hmm, sounds like we got us a bona fide Puritan here.

    "Fan friendly"???? Speak for yourself, prude! This is the worst thing to happen to sports since swimmers traded their Speedos for Jammers!

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  • Apparition

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    Jan 28, 2020 4:56 AM GMT
    still pissed athletes wear clothes. Do they not know what the word gymnasium means?
  • HarborFighter

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    Jan 28, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
    That's one reason I'm a boxer. I get to take clothes off when I go to work. And I love it.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 28, 2020 3:44 PM GMT
    Apparition saidstill pissed athletes wear clothes. Do they not know what the word gymnasium means?
    Athletes are supposed to wear clothes bunkicon_exclaim.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 28, 2020 3:49 PM GMT
    bro4bro saidI watched a U of Maryland wrestling match on TV tonight. Instead of the traditional singlet, the UM wrestlers wore T-shirts and loose fitting shorts!

    Apparently a lot of high school programs have been doing this lately but this is the first year it's been allowed in the NCAA. Maryland is currently the only Division I team that subscribes to this abomination.

    It seems to be the work of their new head coach, Alex Clemsen, who was quoted as saying it's "a more fan-friendly look". In other words, he's personally uncomfortable with singlets. Not surprisingly, he describes himself (first and foremost) on his Twitter feed as a "Follower of Christ", and his latest tweet refers to "the young men I am blessed to coach". Hmm, sounds like we got us a bona fide Puritan here.

    "Fan friendly"???? Speak for yourself, prude! This is the worst thing to happen to sports since swimmers traded their Speedos for Jammers!

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    As usual, it is all these narrow minded bible thumping screwballs who assume that most fans share their backward, nonsensical worldview that male athletes and men in general are supposed to cover up their physiques with hideous, baggy shorts and oversized hoodies or T shirts. I think that the University of Maryland should fire this wrestling coach for imposing his own personal beliefs upon others. This is why religion is a toxic cancer on modern society and the US is going to suffer big time for it in coming yearsicon_razz.gif
  • bro4bro

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    Jan 28, 2020 4:40 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Apparition saidstill pissed athletes wear clothes. Do they not know what the word gymnasium means?
    Athletes are supposed to wear clothes bunkicon_exclaim.gif


    No, athletes are not supposed to wear clothes.

    The ancient Greeks invented wrestling (as well as athletic competition in general). The ancient Greeks competed naked. This was done for better athletic performance.

    Wearing clothes for athletic competition was imposed by the very "Bible thumping screwballs" you're always railing about.

    Case closed.
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    Jan 28, 2020 5:25 PM GMT
    Lord do we need to see female athletes in the buff?
    I'll pass on that.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 28, 2020 5:50 PM GMT
    We noticed this when we went to see the TerraPINNED when they came to town.
    They weren't very good, either.

    Maryland wrestling thoroughly dominated by Michigan, falls 34-3
    https://www.testudotimes.com/2020/1/17/21071181/maryland-wrestling-michigan-final-score-stats-recap-results-summary-matchup-alex-clemson-big-ten

    Still can't believe we gave up that FG. icon_lol.gif
    But it did closely parallel the score of the football game last fall, which was 38-7.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 28, 2020 6:20 PM GMT
    bro4bro said
    roadbikeRob said
    Apparition saidstill pissed athletes wear clothes. Do they not know what the word gymnasium means?
    Athletes are supposed to wear clothes bunkicon_exclaim.gif


    No, athletes are not supposed to wear clothes.

    The ancient Greeks invented wrestling (as well as athletic competition in general). The ancient Greeks competed naked. This was done for better athletic performance.

    Wearing clothes for athletic competition was imposed by the very "Bible thumping screwballs" you're always railing about.

    Case closed.
    Wrong, athletes are supposed to wear clothes and that is how it should be like it or lump it. So the case is not closed. Nudity is wrong periodicon_exclaim.gif It is "NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS" not just bible thumping screwballs. You keep making that major mistake my friend. FYI, this is not ancient Greece we have advanced tremendously and refined ourselves since those dark, medieval style times. It is just all this hideous, baggy, oversized clothing that has absolutely no place in athletic competition.
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    Jan 28, 2020 6:55 PM GMT

    Makes no sense, the pro wrestling singlet is form fitting, made of spandex-lycra for a reason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_singlet

    I was too tall and skinny in high school to be a strong wrestler, when my PE class made us perform but I can tell you we wore our normal gym shirt and shorts and wrestled in them, the loose fitting clothes interfere with wrestling moves such as the pin Half Nelson. The singlet is safer for the male, his penis and testicles are prevented from bouncing around, the wrestling singlet has been the greatest sports uniform since the invention of the baseball cup

    Yes I think this coach is using his personal conservative beliefs to interfere with safety, the singlet shows and enhances the male package much like the Speedo did for swimming. I compare this modern male modesty to the fall of gang style showers and nude swimming in high school


    History of wrestling uniforms
    https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/17094

    What is it about the singlet that generates so much arguing?

    The standard uniform for amateur wrestling creates strong feelings for and against. Those who are in favor of the singlet immediately mention the long tradition of the one-piece singlet being THE uniform for the sport ... and raise concerns about the potential for injuries when wrestlers get their fingers caught in an opponent's two-piece uniform. Those seeking to explore potential alternatives to today's singlet cite negatives such as the revealing nature of the uniform as being deal-breakers for some would-be wrestlers.

    The ongoing pro/con discussion about singlets has taken on new energy in recent weeks, thanks to Matt Krumrie's feature article for USA Wrestling titled "Is it time for wrestling to ditch the singlet?" ... and Edinboro University unveiling new two-piece uniforms this season.

    That said, the singlet has been a subject of discussion -- and, in some cases, derision -- for years. Some outside the sport have mistakenly called the singlet a "unitard" and an "onesie." In a story about wrestling uniforms from 2005, the New York Times described the singlet as "basically an oversize jockstrap with suspenders" then went on to say, "they may be the most mocked athletic uniform in existence, but they are part of a sport that above all values tradition."
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    Jan 28, 2020 9:46 PM GMT
    To me I have an issue with this because it is not just the traditional singlet, etc., it goes to surpassing the coach intent and authority in his job and his is moving in the political and indoctrination area. In essence, if he is doing what you think his motive(s) are which I am not taking his side without really knowing what he said or subscribes in terms of his beliefs, - then he is using his authority to spread his beliefs and I have an issue with this and is really dangerous.

    As a Christian, I do not subscribe to this because it could be a: Muslim, Atheist, etc. using his 'office' being a coach/authority to purposely influence a political message and use his job to do so. As a parent, if I saw this an my teenager son/daughter was competing I would confront him as to why he changed to T-shirt and shorts. I would also discuss it with the Dean of the school since the wrestling coach main job is to teach my son or daughter to wrestle, compete, etc., not to have a political/religious opinion and that is the Parents job, not his. It goes to say the same thing if the coach was Muslim, Atheist, etc., and was influencing your kid.
  • jocked_and_lo...

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    Jan 28, 2020 11:04 PM GMT
    suckitup saidRob is a NARROW MINDED THUMPING SCREWBALL

    You might as well talk to a brick wall


    I put him and the fart on ignore. Things look so much better around here.
  • bro4bro

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    Jan 29, 2020 12:30 AM GMT
    College wrestling is perhaps more infested with "God boys" than any other sport - last year at the NCAA championships, the winners in six of the ten weight classes attributed their wins to God or Jesus in the post-match interview. Football has its share too but not in such large numbers.

    I have never seen any competitor in track or swimming give this kind of testimonial. I guess Jesus won't help you win a race, but he will help you beat up a guy.

    Personally I've always thought the "God boys" in wrestling were trying hard to "pray the gay away" - there are tons of closeted wrestlers out there, and many of them come out after they're done competing (due to the nature of the competition, it's probably the hardest sport to come out in while you're still competing). Wonder how long it'll be before Coach Clemsen gets caught with his pants down?

    And yeah, those new uniforms aren't helping Maryland much. Their record this season is 2-11 (the wins were against Southern Virginia and Fresno State). They lost all ten matches in the meet I saw - to Michigan State, which is not a stellar program to begin with (MSU has only one ranked wrestler in their starting lineup this year - and he's ranked #20 in his weight class). I can't imagine they'll post a conference win in the Big Ten this year.
  • FormerShark

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    Jan 29, 2020 12:43 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidCollege wrestling is perhaps more infested with "God boys" than any other sport - last year at the NCAA championships, the winners in six of the ten weight classes attributed their wins to God or Jesus in the post-match interview. Football has its share too but not in such large numbers.

    I have never seen any competitor in track or swimming give this kind of testimonial. I guess Jesus won't help you win a race, but he will help you beat up a guy.

    Personally I've always thought the "God boys" in wrestling were trying hard to "pray the gay away" - there are tons of closeted wrestlers out there, and many of them come out after they're done competing (due to the nature of the competition, it's probably the hardest sport to come out in while you're still competing). Wonder how long it'll be before Coach Clemsen gets caught with his pants down?

    And yeah, those new uniforms aren't helping Maryland much. Their record this season is 2-11 (the wins were against Southern Virginia and Fresno State). They lost all ten matches in the meet I saw - to Michigan State, which is not a stellar program to begin with (MSU has only one ranked wrestler in their starting lineup this year - and he's ranked #20 in his weight class). I can't imagine they'll post a conference win in the Big Ten this year.

    Singlets famously show mens' bulges. The horror! Men have penises! Some of them are even large!
    It must be exhausting to be an evangelical. All the things you constantly have to get your panties in a bunch over.
  • jocked_and_lo...

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    Jan 29, 2020 12:56 AM GMT
    I only used to wear compression pants only on leg days but I am starting to wear them even when I do only upper body workouts. I like the way they feel and look and wish other guys would do the same.

    I look at guys at the gym who have nicer builds than me who wear compression pants but then cover up with a pair of baggy loose shorts worn over them. I think that's such a horrible look.

    As much of a flute player as I am I don't eroticize/sexualize guys at the gym when they wear tight fitting clothing. Or when I'd watch wrestlers in singlets on the mat it doesn't turn me on. I just like to see great looking bodies in excellent shape. It's sad that these bulky clothes are becoming the norm.

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    ^ There's nothing interesting about that man's garb. He looks boring as hell. A wrestler in excellent shape donning a singlet commands attention.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 29, 2020 5:43 AM GMT
    bro4bro said
    I have never seen any competitor in track or swimming give this kind of testimonial. I guess Jesus won't help you win a race, but he will help you beat up a guy.

    As if some guy in sandals or an old man with a staff would have a chance against this guy?

    Sprinters are obviously too fast to wait around for Jesus.
    While distance runners are used to going all the way.

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  • mwolverine

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    Jan 29, 2020 5:46 AM GMT
    FormerShark said
    It must be exhausting to be an evangelical. All the things you constantly have to get your panties in a bunch over.

    What's the difference between an evangelical and a Jewish mother...?

    One does it to save you in this world, the other to save you in the next?
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    Jan 29, 2020 5:53 AM GMT
    So wearing whatever you want in wrestling is the end of the world? . . . . . uh, shouldn't this be in a sports section, not ALL THINGS GAY?
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    Jan 29, 2020 6:27 AM GMT
    The way things should be:

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    Jan 29, 2020 8:23 AM GMT
    More emphasis on the fact that the new uniform was approved by the NCAA might prevent roadkillforbrainsRob from alleging theocratic conspiracies on the part of the U of MD coach...or maybe not.

    In a video, the U of MD coach says that the wrestling team was originally about 50/50, for and against, the change of uniform.

    Now, according to the coach, most of the team likes the new uniform.

    When it comes to "imposing" ideas on others, anti-Judeo-Christian bigots produce the biggest stacks of corpses.
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    Jan 29, 2020 10:04 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidThe way things should be:

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    Jan 29, 2020 11:28 AM GMT
    Wendigo9 saidSo wearing whatever you want in wrestling is the end of the world? . . . . . uh, shouldn't this be in a sports section, not ALL THINGS GAY?

    I don't think so... since it's not really about the wrestling, but about the athletic boys no longer wearing skin tight lyrca... and trust me THAT is ALL the gay things...

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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 29, 2020 2:32 PM GMT
    All I know is that if the guys are not wearing singlets than I have absolutely nothing to look at and therefor I'll have no interest whatsoever in watching wrestling icon_wink.gif


    Just sayin'....
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 29, 2020 4:24 PM GMT
    My opinion is only an observation and not one that is completely informed. I'd probably ask how the current requirements were established and why. There may well be a practical reason for the attire adopted this year by the NCAA or maybe not. I admit, I'd far prefer the singlets, unless there is a reasonable reason for the change.
  • bro4bro

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    Jan 29, 2020 6:06 PM GMT
    The attire was not "adopted" this year by the NCAA; it was allowed this year by the NCAA, for the first time ever.

    As ElNathB correctly points out, there is a completely valid reason for the singlet that is based on athletic performance and safety.

    The only reasons given for wearing the T-shirt and loose shorts boil down to prudishness and homophobia.