Homophobe Franklin Graham, Friend & Close Ally Of President Trump, Gets Canceled By All 8 Venues Of His U.K. Tour

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    Feb 08, 2020 10:28 PM GMT
    Apparently the British want nothing to do with a raging homophobe & bigot. Even if he is a Donald Trump confident. Or maybe that also has something to do with it, given the historical British intolerance for liars, con artists & fakers. Hence their overwhelming revulsion at Trump himself, and by association Evangelist Graham.

    "The controversial speaker has publicly promoted homophobia, claiming that homosexuality is a 'sin,' that Satan was the architect of same-sex marriage and LGBT+ rights and that gay people are causing a 'moral 9/11'...” states a petition against his appearance.

    While his father, evangelist Billy Graham, was warmly welcomed by Queen Elizabeth II in 1955, Franklin has earned a reputation in the U.S. and abroad for controversial remarks against gays and Muslims.

    In 2010, Graham, now a close ally of President Donald Trump, said former president Barack Obama was “born a Muslim,” echoing the racist “birther” conspiracy theory that the first black president was born somewhere outside the United States and was lying about his religion.

    Following the 2017 repeal of North Carolina’s transgender "bathroom bill," which banned trans people from using restrooms matching their gender identity, Graham tweeted, “Thanks to the gov, people of NC will be exposed to pedophiles & sexually perverted men in women’s public restrooms.”

    And just last year, Graham denounced the sexuality of presidential contender Pete Buttigieg, saying the Bible defines homosexuality as “something to be repentant of, not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized.”


    Indeed, a very fitting “close ally” and confident of Donald Trump. Whom trolls here still insist is the most gay-friendly president in history. As the Brits would say: “Pull the other one."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/evangelist-franklin-graham-scrambles-rebook-tour-after-all-u-k-n1132771
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    Feb 09, 2020 1:56 PM GMT
    Cool. Good for them.
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    Feb 09, 2020 8:38 PM GMT
    People who live in Glass Houses.
  • FRE0

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    Feb 09, 2020 10:39 PM GMT
    The events of last week (posted 9 Feb) indicate that among many people, honesty and integrity are no longer considered important virtues. That is unmistakably clear considering that Trump's approval rating increased following his speech.
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    Feb 10, 2020 5:11 PM GMT
    Franklin Graham and his traveling road show of anti-gay bigotry is going to have to find another source of revenue, unfortunately for the hateful old racist.
    The "evangelical" church in the USA is a racist, right-wing political movement that uses Christianity as a cover for the real agenda, just as the KKK used to cloak themselves in Christian symbols and language.
    The good news is that intelligent people are seeing through this phony con job and younger people want nothing to do with the white nationalist evangelicals... the church is losing members at a rapid rate, especially among young adults who want nothing to with with this racist crap.
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    Feb 10, 2020 5:57 PM GMT
    FRE0 saidThe events of last week (posted 9 Feb) indicate that among many people, honesty and integrity are no longer considered important virtues. That is unmistakably clear considering that Trump's approval rating increased following his speech.

    Sir your talking politics.
    Do you jump up on the table, over Democrates & Liberals alike, lack honesty & integrity?
    Did you ever support Mrs Clinton becoming President?
    A well documented homophobe!
  • wild_sky360

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    Feb 10, 2020 9:20 PM GMT
    While it's not a tidal shift, younger people in both the UK and US are beginning to lean more towards Graham's point of view... or perceived point of view. And that is not casual observation. Detailed studies by GLAAD confirm it according to Queerty. Religiosity contributes somewhat, but such a paradoxical reversal of trend indicates a much more nuanced cause.
    https://www.queerty.com/young-people-likely-older-think-lgbtq-people-immoral-20191016

    I recall a thread about this on RJ over the past year that had different citations which suggested a much lower tolerance for liberal cancel culture among coming of age youth. Abridgement of free speech, and toxic, politically correct strictures are one of the presumed causes for the shift. That makes sense to me. The young are bringing fresh eyes to the increasingly violent intolerance for differences of opinion.

    Most of the rest of us are like boiling frogs, seemingly unaware of the loss of liberty at the hands of our own peers and "victim" group. We're still behaving like it's 1980 and there's a live shooting war going on. Instead of celebrating the war won, which was the dramatic shift in public opinion, we're crediting the militancy, and in the process, creating new enemies out of those who would otherwise be natural allies. My cynical side thinks it's because the massive fundraising apparatus is hard to dismantle. That is something much better done from within, but it feels so good to write the check.. and to cash it.. and make the decisions of where to spend it. And there is a shit ton of it constantly flowing in. There's a power in it that transcends virtue signaling and searching for a reason to exist. It seems to have morphed into a pure lust for power itself.

    Beware the backlash ...because signals indicate that it is coming.


    A Shit-ton is equivalent to 24 metric assloads, or 1/10th of a fuck-ton.

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    Feb 10, 2020 10:07 PM GMT
    Strange that Graham has been discussed here from different perspectives, but none of our resident trolls mention his homophobic rhetoric & agenda. You would think that gay guys would want to address that, since we’re the ones being directly attacked by this homophobe.

    Very curious indeed. And revealing, regarding their own agenda.
  • wild_sky360

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    Feb 10, 2020 11:29 PM GMT
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    Huh..
    there's trolls on this thread?
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    Feb 11, 2020 8:23 PM GMT
    wild_sky360 saidicon_neutral.gif
    Huh..
    there's trolls on this thread?

    Has someone spoken a truth, that another didn't like?
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    Feb 11, 2020 10:41 PM GMT
    Graham mentioned filing breach of contract lawsuits against seven of the eight venues. I suspect that his legal position is strong and, of so, I hope that he wins big.

    He also asserts that these cancellations are violations of religious liberty and freedom of speech, claims which appear valid to any lover of liberty.

    America was founded as a Christian Church relocation project.

    Unfortunately, Great Britain does not have the same kind of speech and religious rights codified by those courageous geniuses, America's Founding Fathers, who were almost all devout Christians.

    As I have stated elsewhere, I do not support the assertions that all sex outside of marriage is sinful, and that "homosexuality is condemned by the Bible," but a civil, constitutional republic protects the rights to hold and express those beliefs.

    As shown by the comments in this topic, leftist fascists are thrilled when fundamental American rights like religious liberty and freedom of speech are trashed, if it suits their fascist agenda, i.e., transforming America into another Venezuela.

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  • wild_sky360

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    Feb 13, 2020 7:12 AM GMT
    If the troll comment was directed to me, I'll clarify my comments and refute it.
    My take of the original post was that it implied it's ok to censor anyone you disagree with. It seemed to celebrate it, in fact.

    I think the younger Graham is a dick and a hypocrite, but it would never occur to me to try shutting him down. He does not live in my head as an enemy that I need to destroy at the cost of civil liberties.
    It is the epitome of arrogance to presume the people filling these venues need to be protected from hearing him speak. The zealots who pursue these tactics lack any self awareness that their actions are having an opposite affect on the hearts and minds of the coming of age youth.
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    Feb 13, 2020 9:59 AM GMT
    wild_sky360 saidIf the troll comment was directed to me, I'll clarify my comments and refute it.
    My take of the original post was that it implied it's ok to censor anyone you disagree with. It seemed to celebrate it, in fact.

    I think the younger Graham is a dick and a hypocrite, but it would never occur to me to try shutting him down. He does not live in my head as an enemy that I need to destroy at the cost of civil liberties.
    It is the epitome of arrogance to presume the people filling these venues need to be protected from hearing him speak. The zealots who pursue these tactics lack any self awareness that their actions are having an opposite affect on the hearts and minds of the coming of age youth.

    No one has shut him down in the US. And as far as the UK is concerned, they have every right to act as they choose without interference or lectures from us.
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    Feb 13, 2020 10:03 AM GMT
    jockjoy saidGraham mentioned filing breach of contract lawsuits against seven of the eight venues. I suspect that his legal position is strong

    No, it's not. The UK doesn't have any ridiculous Religious Freedom Fascism acts.

    America was founded as a Christian Church relocation project.

    Wrong again, feces lover. The United States was founded as a scrupulously secular nation. Put down the Bruce Barton books.

    Unfortunately, Great Britain does not have the same kind of speech and religious rights codified by those courageous geniuses, America's Founding Fathers, who were almost all devout Christians.

    Actually none of them were. They were Enlightenment Deists. Jefferson was quite plain on this point. Really, you should at least try to be less embarrassingly stupid.

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    Feb 13, 2020 3:57 PM GMT
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    wild_sky360 saidIf the troll comment was directed to me, I'll clarify my comments and refute it.
    My take of the original post was that it implied it's ok to censor anyone you disagree with. It seemed to celebrate it, in fact.

    I think the younger Graham is a dick and a hypocrite, but it would never occur to me to try shutting him down. He does not live in my head as an enemy that I need to destroy at the cost of civil liberties.
    It is the epitome of arrogance to presume the people filling these venues need to be protected from hearing him speak. The zealots who pursue these tactics lack any self awareness that their actions are having an opposite affect on the hearts and minds of the coming of age youth.

    No one has shut him down in the US. And as far as the UK is concerned, they have every right to act as they choose without interference or lectures from us.


    Does your Laissez-faire attitude of non-interference extend to those Muslim countries that execute gay people? Or are you willing to excuse those on the basis of cultural differences as well?

    My personal take is that some rights are inalienable and condemnation of their violations is perfectly acceptable.
  • KissTheSky

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    Feb 13, 2020 5:36 PM GMT
    Of course the conservatives rush to defend the anti-gay bigots.
    Franklin Graham has devoted much of his life to persecuting gay people and fighting equal rights for gay Americans.
    You should be ashamed to support this vile bigot. But you're a Republican, so I shouldn't be surprised.




    jockjoy saidGraham mentioned filing breach of contract lawsuits against seven of the eight venues. I suspect that his legal position is strong and, of so, I hope that he wins big.

    He also asserts that these cancellations are violations of religious liberty and freedom of speech, claims which appear valid to any lover of liberty.

    America was founded as a Christian Church relocation project.

    Unfortunately, Great Britain does not have the same kind of speech and religious rights codified by those courageous geniuses, America's Founding Fathers, who were almost all devout Christians.

    As I have stated elsewhere, I do not support the assertions that all sex outside of marriage is sinful, and that "homosexuality is condemned by the Bible," but a civil, constitutional republic protects the rights to hold and express those beliefs.

    As shown by the comments in this topic, leftist fascists are thrilled when fundamental American rights like religious liberty and freedom of speech are trashed, if it suits their fascist agenda, i.e., transforming America into another Venezuela.

    ?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-J_V

    ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.bonanzastatic.co
  • FormerShark

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    Feb 13, 2020 5:41 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn said
    FormerShark said
    wild_sky360 saidIf the troll comment was directed to me, I'll clarify my comments and refute it.
    My take of the original post was that it implied it's ok to censor anyone you disagree with. It seemed to celebrate it, in fact.

    I think the younger Graham is a dick and a hypocrite, but it would never occur to me to try shutting him down. He does not live in my head as an enemy that I need to destroy at the cost of civil liberties.
    It is the epitome of arrogance to presume the people filling these venues need to be protected from hearing him speak. The zealots who pursue these tactics lack any self awareness that their actions are having an opposite affect on the hearts and minds of the coming of age youth.

    No one has shut him down in the US. And as far as the UK is concerned, they have every right to act as they choose without interference or lectures from us.


    Does your Laissez-faire attitude of non-interference extend to those Muslim countries that execute gay people? Or are you willing to excuse those on the basis of cultural differences as well?

    My personal take is that some rights are inalienable and condemnation of their violations is perfectly acceptable.

    What is it with you right-wingers and your Manichaean hogwash? If I don't roundly condemn something or even mention it, that means I approve of it?
    Do these stupid semantic games actually work on anyone? And if they don't, why do you bother?