Federal Guidelines extended to April 30th. Fauci: US deaths could reach 100-200,000. Birx: “No state, no metro area, will be spared.”

  • mwolverine

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    Mar 30, 2020 7:18 AM GMT
    || Anthony S. Fauci said the United States could record 100,000 to 200,000 deaths and millions of infections, according to current but rapidly evolving projections. And Deborah Birx, coordinator of the White House task force, offered a grim assessment: “No state, no metro area, will be spared.”

    || Trump says federal guidance urging social distancing will stay in place through April 30

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/29/coronavirus-latest-news
  • jocked_and_lo...

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    Mar 30, 2020 8:41 AM GMT
    I just posted in one of my threads that over 750 people died in the US during a twenty-four hour period this past weekend. That's a huge jump in deaths on a day to day basis. If we reach the 200K mark that's approximately 500 people dying every single day for a whole year straight. But more than likely this won't stretch out over a whole 365 day period. It'll more than likely be shorter in duration with death tolls in the 700-800 range daily. This is insane.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 30, 2020 1:42 PM GMT
    This pandemic is getting scarier by the day with even more grim news about this deadly virus. If only we did these drastic measures back in early December, we most likely would have avoided the worst of this deadly virus. But the Mango Mussolini kept calling it a hoax and that we had it all under control. Yeah right, my ass!
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    Mar 30, 2020 4:22 PM GMT
    The gov'nor of MD just issued mandated stay at home order except for essential services (grocery buying etc). Goes into effect 8PM tonight.
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    Mar 30, 2020 5:23 PM GMT
    The only way and I have been saying it since Day 1 that I started alerting everyone of this is completely shut down and lock down. All air traffic shut down and cities lock down, deployment of the national guard - and everyone wearing N95 masks, and if you do not have one then use a bandana in the meantime. Please do not listen to WHO and CDC that you do not need one- if someone is asymptomatic but contagious they can be shedding viral load. This goes to someone also exercising or running across you they can shed viral load in the air and you not having a mask. The WHO is a political lobbying group that has been influenced by the Chinese Communist Party along with the CDC that is political. Regardless of what New York, New Jersey, Louisiana, state - the Trump Administration needs to supersede at a national level convey a national TV announcement and impose martial law - period. If rioting occurs, send the national guard and army. If you look at South Korea, Japan, Singapore and Hong Kong they been able to flatten the curve on the virus by shutting down/lock down, testing everyone, everyone wearing a mask, and sending disinfecting crews to the affected areas. Some Governors are doing a great job others are disgrace to the its citizens...at this point we have to take care of ourselves, our friends and our communities - you can not could on worthless leadership at the local level and state level. Unfortunately, here yesterday I went for a walk in Foster City Levee and a lot of people are still ignoring the 6 foot separation rule and not wearing masks. Our governor has not shut down the airports again crazy.
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    Mar 30, 2020 6:56 PM GMT
    This thing is serious, even healthy 19 year olds die from it, older people above 70 have significant risk of dying unfortunately, ultimately this is race against time, hopefully covid 19 can be contained long enough until effective vaccine is available for the population
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    Mar 30, 2020 7:41 PM GMT
    Wasn’t this FAKE NEWS? A hoax by Democrats to undo the 2016 election? Trump and Fox News both said so for 2 months. Now who you gonna continue to believe? A self-proclaimed very stable genius with good hunches and a natural talent for medicine, and Fox TV commentators with no suitable credentials, or some highly qualified medical experts?

    Yah gotta go with Trump & Fox, right? So what if they’ve both done a 180 over the last 2 weeks. Rewriting history that they always knew a pandemic was here. You just have to believe something totally different now. No problem for the Trump faithful, they do it on a daily basis. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 30, 2020 9:29 PM GMT
    Now VA is on lockdown. DC's begins on Wednesday.
  • MEGATRON

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    Mar 30, 2020 10:53 PM GMT
    Someone told me they saw a prediction that 50% of the population will be gone by the time this is all over. Not sure how much I believe that.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 31, 2020 1:14 AM GMT
    happyandsad saidSomeone told me they saw a prediction that 50% of the population will be gone by the time this is all over. Not sure how much I believe that.
    Is that 50% of the US population or 50% of the world population?
  • MEGATRON

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    Mar 31, 2020 2:00 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    happyandsad saidSomeone told me they saw a prediction that 50% of the population will be gone by the time this is all over. Not sure how much I believe that.
    Is that 50% of the US population or 50% of the world population?


    I believe world. It was a nurse I work with who said she saw the report. She didn't believe it at first, but now that things are worsening, she said she's starting to think it could be true...
  • mwolverine

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    Mar 31, 2020 4:52 AM GMT
    While I've been called a prophet of doom & gloom, that is not at all likely.

    I posted this to the Science forum to keep it free of political bickering.

    THE FATALITY RATE OF COVID-19
    https://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4519674
  • FitBlackCuddl...

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    Mar 31, 2020 6:22 AM GMT
    Though there is no definitive PROOF of any deaths, (just the government and media SAYING so), I agree that a lockdown is better than not. If only people would honor the social distancing, it would give government less excuse to crack down hard with martial law.

    Am living in south-central Los Angeles, within a Black/Latino ghetto where heavy smoking, drinking and drug-use is the norm--and NO ONE BELIEVES THE VIRUS IS REAL. Despite the area being an ideal environment for Covid-19 to show up, infect, and kill in high numbers, SO FAR no one is making any noise about respiratory sickness.
  • mwolverine

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    Mar 31, 2020 7:18 AM GMT
    If you know anyone who works at a hospital, ask them. It's real.

    There are only 7,426 known cases in California (so far).
    Out of a population of 40,000,000.
    That's less than 1 per 5,000.

    It needs a vector to get to your group.
    Maybe someone will get it at a grocery or from a gas pump.
    But if the group is not social distancing, by the time you find out about that person, you'll all have it.

    The behaviors you mention weaken the lungs and immune system.
    You don't want to go through something effectively eating your lungs.
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    Mar 31, 2020 1:22 PM GMT
    happyandsad saidSomeone told me they saw a prediction that 50% of the population will be gone by the time this is all over. Not sure how much I believe that.


    Not from this. It's killing efficacy rate is way too low to hit those figures.
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    Mar 31, 2020 1:28 PM GMT
    FitBlackCuddler said
    Though there is no definitive PROOF of any deaths, (just the government and media SAYING so), I agree that a lockdown is better than not. If only people would honor the social distancing, it would give government less excuse to crack down hard with martial law.

    Am living in south-central Los Angeles, within a Black/Latino ghetto where heavy smoking, drinking and drug-use is the norm--and NO ONE BELIEVES THE VIRUS IS REAL. Despite the area being an ideal environment for Covid-19 to show up, infect, and kill in high numbers, SO FAR no one is making any noise about respiratory sickness.

    Since you say there’s no proof of any deaths due to the virus, I guess you’re safe. Lucky you!
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    Mar 31, 2020 1:40 PM GMT
    Mother Nature's revenge., Social Selection at play. The Boomer Remover.
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    Mar 31, 2020 2:25 PM GMT
    Federal Lockdown Extended To April 30th.

    Is there a federal lockdown? Or has it been unenforced guidance?

    Aren’t the states the only ones that have actually declared lockdowns, but not all of them, done piecemeal? Along with some counties & cities. But with exceptions for essential workers & services, like groceries, medicine, gas stations, take-out food, outdoor exercise, etc. Not quite hard lockdowns or quarantines.

    Our own Florida governor has dithered on this, fearful of getting ahead of his benefactor Trump, and hurting our tourist industry. A little late for that now.

    It took local governments to shut down their beaches, when the governor would not. And many Florida tourist attractions chose to close themselves down, like the mega-theme parks in Orlando, long before the state acted on anything.

    I realize you’re just using terms coming mostly from the media, both on the left & right. But I see a lot of careless inaccuracy with them, and also rewriting of history. Especially from politicians trying to erase their inaction, misstatements and mistakes, to dishonestly reshape themselves as strong & forward-looking leaders.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 31, 2020 3:27 PM GMT
    mwolverine saidIf you know anyone who works at a hospital, ask them. It's real.

    There are only 7,426 known cases in California (so far).
    Out of a population of 40,000,000.
    That's less than 1 per 5,000.

    It needs a vector to get to your group.
    Maybe someone will get it at a grocery or from a gas pump.
    But if the group is not social distancing, by the time you find out about that person, you'll all have it.

    The behaviors you mention weaken the lungs and immune system.
    You don't want to go through something effectively eating your lungs.
    At the rate things are going down in Louisiana, that state could possibly catch up to New York with the number of Covid-19 cases. It has been reported that Louisiana as a whole has the world’s fastest rising number of Covid-19 cases and New Orleans could become another epicenter for this deadly virus. The sad thing is that Louisiana is a mostly poor red republican state with a horrendous health care system which could make matters ten times worse.
  • mwolverine

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    Mar 31, 2020 5:37 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Is there a federal lockdown? Or has it been unenforced guidance?

    I'm pretty sure I copied that from the Washington Post... but it was 3am.
    Since that language no longer appears there, I have fixed the headline.
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    Mar 31, 2020 10:21 PM GMT
    The Epoch Times is reporting that Wuhan the epicenter funeral homes are now advising their loved one's to pick up their ashes. The CCP has been lying in terms of the Deaths in overall China. They are saying based on the amount of Urns that five funerals are producing a day and calling the death relatives...so far more than 32,000 have died in Wuhan the epicenter. This is not withstanding the other provinces. So unfortunately for the US we can only learn from Italy, Singapore, South Korea, etc. in the numbers.
  • MEGATRON

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    Apr 01, 2020 12:43 AM GMT
    My best friend's cousin is a PA at a hospital here on Long Island. On Friday night at her hospital, 50 people died, many of them families who came in together - age ranges from 30s-60s. Many of them also with no underlying health problems. They are having to pick and choose who gets proper help and who doesn't. Terrible.

    I also have a feeling this federal guideline might get extended again past April 30th as it gets closer. Maybe even through Memorial Day. I don't see this improving drastically in 30 days from now where everyone can return to normal life.
  • jocked_and_lo...

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    Apr 01, 2020 1:21 AM GMT
    uombroca saidThe Epoch Times is reporting that Wuhan the epicenter funeral homes are now advising their loved one's to pick up their ashes. The CCP has been lying in terms of the Deaths in overall China. They are saying based on the amount of Urns that five funerals are producing a day and calling the death relatives...so far more than 32,000 have died in Wuhan the epicenter. This is not withstanding the other provinces. So unfortunately for the US we can only learn from Italy, Singapore, South Korea, etc. in the numbers.


    This is very interesting. If this is true that means China is grossly lying. As of now approximately only 3,300 people are reported to have died in China. What is your source?
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    Apr 01, 2020 6:48 AM GMT
    jocked_and_loaded said
    uombroca saidThe Epoch Times is reporting that Wuhan the epicenter funeral homes are now advising their loved one's to pick up their ashes. The CCP has been lying in terms of the Deaths in overall China. They are saying based on the amount of Urns that five funerals are producing a day and calling the death relatives...so far more than 32,000 have died in Wuhan the epicenter. This is not withstanding the other provinces. So unfortunately for the US we can only learn from Italy, Singapore, South Korea, etc. in the numbers.


    This is very interesting. If this is true that means China is grossly lying. As of now approximately only 3,300 people are reported to have died in China. What is your source?



    https://www.theepochtimes.com/real-death-toll-in-wuhan-might-be-12-times-official-figure-ashes-urns-tell-us_3289749.html


    Information provided by residents at the epicenter of the CCP virus in Wuhan, China, indicates that the real death toll there could be over 32,000, which is 12.7 times the official figure.

    The Hubei provincial health commission announced on March 23 that in the whole of Wuhan, 2,524 people had died of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, commonly known as novel coronavirus. Wuhan is the capital of Hubei.

    Medical specialists’ reports in the Lancet and other magazines revealed that Chinese authorities have been lying about the virus outbreak since day one. The real situation in Wuhan and the whole of China has been covered up.