Near My Old Neighborhood, Flushing Queens, a Tragedy Is Unfolding a few miles west in Jackson Heights, Queens, NY.

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    Apr 09, 2020 5:31 PM GMT
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-tragedy-is-unfolding-inside-new-yorks-virus-epicenter/ar-BB12nGnX?ocid=bingoverlayoff2
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 10, 2020 1:42 PM GMT
    An extremely tragic situation where hospitals and medical clinics are in short supply of essential equipment to battle this deadly pandemic. The entire NYC Borough of Queens has literally been eviscerated by Coronavirus which is totally unacceptable as well as tragic. The City of New York needs to start paying more attention to the working class and poor neighborhoods that make up the majority of the city and stop funding these ridiculous super tall luxury condo towers in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Time to jack up taxes 90% on the Uber wealthy that live in those ridiculous pencil thin super talls. The middle class, working class, and the poor in NYC need help in this grave pandemic crisis.
  • KluckAndPluck

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    Apr 10, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
    Maybe New York City would benefit from a Democrat Mayor. You know, Democrats care about the poor and middle class. I'm sure this would have never happened under a Democrat Mayor.

    Oh wait.
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    Apr 10, 2020 3:59 PM GMT
    1996 - 2000, pretty much every day I commuted westward into Manhattan and returned eastward back to Flushing over and sometimes through Jackson Heights. The above ground #7 train would have people of Jackson Heights enter the train at their stop.

    When I would ride my bike all over Flushing Meadows Park, I'm sure there were many residents of Jackson Heights there.

    I am heartfelt sad over this.

    This also puts going back to a place I enjoyed out of reach.

    It's really difficult accepting I cannot go back at least for two months to maybe as long as two years.

    It's discouraging because so many people used to be able to move to New York, escaping whatever.

    No, this is not the early 1980s where you could scrape by in your escape.
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    Apr 10, 2020 8:24 PM GMT
    I am sure it is a very difficult time and my hearts goes out to New York and New Jersey residents. Moving forward, past this we will have to questions the following:

    *Where were our true leaders in terms of our communities, hospital parishes and counties? Did they heighten the crisis for their own political gain?
    *Why did those hospitals did not have the essential equipment at the county, parish, and state level? If they were private, the same questions.
    *Why so many governors cut their Emergency Medical Funds that are part of each State government budgets- when they were alerted per previous health pandemics, Ebola, SARS, H1-N1 - many governors gutted the EMF and did pet pork projects? Then cry wolf they did not have enough Emergency equipment.
    *Why did health officials tell many communities including New York and New Jersey to go out, use the subway, etc. when other countries were already in full pandemic? Are these really health officials political in nature and not credential epidemiologist and doctors for these position more interested in political correctness than our health.

    Moving forward it will be hard to trust anything of the local and state officials and I think we will be thinking of each other more closer. Additionally, we need to defund institutions that make us harm in the world and us personally. We must continue to be part of the world community, but not when these institutions want to hurt the world and the United States. So for the UN, just send $1.00 dollar and for The Who $.50 cents. The rest of the world can pick up the tab.
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    Apr 10, 2020 8:42 PM GMT
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    Why did those hospitals did not have the essential equipment at the county, parish, and state level? If they were private, the same questions.

    Parish? Do You have parishes in California? That’s almost exclusively a Louisiana political division. The rest of the US has states, counties, and cites/towns/municipalities & villages.

    But aside from that anomaly, what is your point? No smaller entity than the Federal government is capable of handling something catasrophic like this.

    It’s why we have the FEMA. But Trump's saying: “States, you’re on your on, the governors in charge. Fight it out among yourselves. Unless you speak nicely to me and VP Pence."
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 10, 2020 9:28 PM GMT
    Astrologer said1996 - 2000, pretty much every day I commuted westward into Manhattan and returned eastward back to Flushing over and sometimes through Jackson Heights. The above ground #7 train would have people of Jackson Heights enter the train at their stop.

    When I would ride my bike all over Flushing Meadows Park, I'm sure there were many residents of Jackson Heights there.

    I am heartfelt sad over this.

    This also puts going back to a place I enjoyed out of reach.

    It's really difficult accepting I cannot go back at least for two months to maybe as long as two years.

    It's discouraging because so many people used to be able to move to New York, escaping whatever.

    No, this is not the early 1980s where you could scrape by in your escape.
    My friend this is every big major city especially the high profile cities. Not only was New York a city to flee rural and small town oppression but also other big cities like Boston, Chicago, New Orleans, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle. However all of these cities have been made into luxurious reservations for the Uber wealthy and everything is geared just for the wealthiest of the wealthy. You have luxury residential skyscrapers and posh townhouses everywhere and there is a Starbucks on every other corner. It is mostly five star hotels and posh health spas along with expensive eclectic shops. A person of modest means fleeing small town and rural oppression would end up homeless on the streets today. While I applaud the cleaning up and revitalization of these cities, I condemn the too out of control gentrification and rapidly rising housing prices that have put Boston, New York, Chicago, New Orleans, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle completely out of reach for average working stiffs and even the upper middle class. These seven major cities are all geared to the wealthy because they are owned mostly by the wealthy. If you are a native of one of these above listed cities and you don’t have a seven digit annual income, well you can never move back because you couldn’t afford it.
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    Apr 10, 2020 11:58 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    uombroca said
    Why did those hospitals did not have the essential equipment at the county, parish, and state level? If they were private, the same questions.

    Parish? Do You have parishes in California? That’s almost exclusively a Louisiana political division. The rest of the US has states, counties, and cites/towns/municipalities & villages.

    But aside from that anomaly, what is your point?


    Let me explain the obvious to you: Uombroca is aware - unlike most Americans - that in Louisiana they have parishes instead of counties. He is also aware - which you apparently are not based on your idiotic comment - that what he posts here is read by people all over the USA, and the world.

    His "point" is equally obvious. The Federal government is not responsible for making sure state and local governments are prepared to handle whatever disaster comes along. There is nothing in the Constitution that confers that power on the Federal government.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 11, 2020 2:37 AM GMT
    ObscureAndFuzzy said
    Art_Deco said
    uombroca said
    Why did those hospitals did not have the essential equipment at the county, parish, and state level? If they were private, the same questions.

    Parish? Do You have parishes in California? That’s almost exclusively a Louisiana political division. The rest of the US has states, counties, and cites/towns/municipalities & villages.

    But aside from that anomaly, what is your point?


    Let me explain the obvious to you: Uombroca is aware - unlike most Americans - that in Louisiana they have parishes instead of counties. He is also aware - which you apparently are not based on your idiotic comment - that what he posts here is read by people all over the USA, and the world.

    His "point" is equally obvious. The Federal government is not responsible for making sure state and local governments are prepared to handle whatever disaster comes along. There is nothing in the Constitution that confers that power on the Federal government.
    His point is baseless bullshit! It is the responsibility of the federal government to help in times of major crisis. Just because the Constitution doesn’t quite specify those responsibilities doesn’t relieve the federal government of them. The Coronavirus pandemic is the responsibility of the federal government to respond and provide the required support regardless of what the Constitution says. It is dead wrong to burden the states, counties, and municipalities to struggle with this deadly pandemic. The federal government has a major responsibility in this major crisis. Probably if we would raise taxes on the wealthy and cut the bloated defense budget by 75%, than the federal government will have more money to fulfill its obligations to fighting this deadly pandemic.
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    Apr 11, 2020 2:41 AM GMT
    Trump Broke the Agencies That Were Supposed To Stop the Covid-19 Epidemic
    The government agencies designed to protect us are riddled with vacancies and temporary officials. No wonder we’re facing a catastrophe.
    ?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2
    Impeached Forever, Corrupt, incompetent, rotten to the core



    This week, U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams promised that we’re entering the darkest days of the Covid-19 epidemic: “This is going to be our Pearl Harbor moment, our 9/11 moment. Only, it’s not going to be localized, it’s going to be happening all over the country. And I want America to understand that,” Adams told Fox News’ Chris Wallace.

    Adams’ metaphor, evoking the two deadliest—and most shocking—moments of modern American history, came on the fourth consecutive day that U.S. deaths from Covid-19 crossed the 1,000 mark. Across Saturday, Sunday and Monday, more Americans were killed by the novel coronavirus than in either Pearl Harbor, the 9/11 attacks or the Civil War battle of Antietam. The days ahead surely will include an even grimmer toll.

    Yet Adams’ metaphor of this as our new “9/11 moment” is more apt than he likely intended: Comparing the events is about more than just a story of casualties—it is also a story about government’s failure. Both Pearl Harbor and the 9/11 attacks occurred, in part, because the U.S. government and intelligence failed to see the attacks looming. We were caught unprepared, and Americans paid for that mistake with their lives.


    House on September 12. We devoted billions—trillions, even—of dollars after 2001 to fixing the intelligence and information-gathering problems identified by the 9/11 Commission, and Congress and George W. Bush worked through the biggest reorganization of the government since 1947 to create two entirely new entities to help prevent “the next 9/11”: The Department of Homeland Security, an attempt to bring together all the agencies tasked with protecting the country at home, and the Office of Director of National Intelligence, a coordinator for the nation’s 17 disparate intelligence agencies to ensure that the country better understood both the big picture and the small picture of what was happening around the world.

    Unfortunately, Donald Trump’s routine, day-to-day mismanagement of the government has left both organizations—the very entities we tasked as a nation to prevent the next 9/11—riddled with vacancies and temporary officials as the novel coronavirus rapidly spread from a small blip in China to a global health and economic catastrophe. In fact, the four top jobs at DHS and ODNI have all been filled with temporary acting officials for literally every day that Covid-19 has been on the world stage.

    Actings” often struggle to be successful precisely because they’re temporary—their word carries less weight with their own workforce, with other government agencies or on Capitol Hill—and they rarely have the opportunity to set and drive their own agenda, push for broad organizational change or even learn the ropes of how to be successful in the job given the usually brief period of their tenure. Anyone who has ever changed jobs or companies knows how long it can take to feel like you understand a new organization, a new culture or shape a new role.

    And yet up and down the org chart at DHS, there are people still learning the ropes. DHS is riddled with critical vacancies; according to the Washington Post’s appointment tracker, just 35 percent of its top roles are filled.

    While much attention has been focused on Trump’s decision to shutter the National Security Council’s pandemic unit, less attention has focused on an even more critical change in the NSC’s structure. Another key post-9/11 reform was the creation of a White House homeland security adviser, a domestic equal to the national security adviser, a post created just days after 9/11 by President George W. Bush and filled at first by Tom Ridge, who would go on to be the first Homeland Security secretary. Presidents Bush and Obama for years had at their beck and call senior, sober homeland security advisers like Fran Townsend, Ken Wainstein, John Brennan and Lisa Monaco; Monaco helped oversee the nation’s response to Ebola and led the incoming Trump administration through a pandemic response exercise in the days before the inauguration to highlight how critical such an incident could be.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/07/trump-dismantled-the-very-jobs-meant-to-stop-the-covid-19-epidemic-173347


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    Apr 11, 2020 2:47 AM GMT
    Note that public health and safety power is reserved to the states:

    powersjrjz0.jpg

    https://www.infoplease.com/us/government/legislative-branch/powers-of-the-government
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    Apr 11, 2020 3:02 PM GMT
    Muskelprotz saidNote that public health and safety power is reserved to the states:

    powersjrjz0.jpg

    https://www.infoplease.com/us/government/legislative-branch/powers-of-the-government


    Wikipedia has a nice high-level summary of this principle. It's really too bad that civics isn't a part of the modern educational curricula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism

    Federalism is the mixed or compound mode of government, combining a general government (the central or "federal" government) with regional governments (provincial, state, cantonal, territorial or other sub-unit governments) in a single political system. Its distinctive feature, exemplified in the founding example of modern federalism by the United States under the Constitution of 1787, is a relationship of parity between the two levels of government established.[1] Federalism can thus be defined as a form of government in which there is a division of powers between two levels of government of equal status.[2]

    Federalism differs from confederalism, in which the general level of government is subordinate to the regional level, and from devolution within a unitary state, in which the regional level of government is subordinate to the general level.[3] It represents the central form in the pathway of regional integration or separation,[4] bounded on the less integrated side by confederalism and on the more integrated side by devolution within a unitary state.[5]

    Leading examples of the federation or federal state include the United States, India, Brazil, Mexico, Russia, Germany, Canada, Switzerland, Argentina, and Australia. Some also today characterize the European Union as the pioneering example of federalism in a multi-state setting, in a concept termed the federal union of states.
  • outdoorsmuscl...

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    Apr 11, 2020 10:50 PM GMT
    Trump Broke the Agencies That Were Supposed To Stop the Covid-19 Epidemic
    The government agencies designed to protect us are riddled with vacancies and temporary officials.
    No wonder we’re facing a catastrophe.
    ?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Impeached Forever, Corrupt Forever, Prison this Scumbag Piece of Shit Forever

    - [ https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/07/trump-dismantled-the-very-jobs-meant-to-stop-the-covid-19-epidemic-173347 ]