How to Know God Exists - Start with the God Notion. We do not have eternity nor 5 billion years, only 600 million years left.

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    Sep 16, 2020 7:33 PM GMT
    God is not private. God is public.

    God is not dark. God is light.

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    Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross

    I purchased this book awhile ago, and am just now offering my response to it. I LOVE this book!! It is easy to read and to understand. It is written in the most beautiful language I have read in years. I look forward to finding myself in the same situation that St. John of the Cross found himself in some day, which was in the midst of a feeling of nothingness…absolutely black, still, quiet, stagnant, nothingness….until he gradually sensed The Beloved was there in the darkness with him. John and his soul were then completely satisfied in their search for the Beloved, and their feelings of emptiness were nourished forever. It is a beautifully written current translation of a very important early spiritual document. Rarely do writers put pen to paper and produce orchestral literary music of the first water that is written in English without notations for a musical score! But Mirabai Starr has composed her work of translating Dark Night of the Soul in such fashion that it fascinates the reader with its beauty, and it’s easy to understand. Such an amazing contemporary new transcription of this ancient work depicting the workings of the human spirit in its utmost range of human emotions is a collector’s treasure in any reader’s well-used library. For today’s readers who seek to know what, when, and why, and how, this book should answer all your questions of the spirit. I recommend it! – Barbara Miley

    Maybe Thomas Merton wrote the preface of the edition I read in the 1980s.

    God (the Sun) still holds me when the Earth must turn away from God as it revolves on its axis.

    God (the Sun) is behind the clouds.

    God (the Sun) creates life and preserves life.

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    God (the Sun) created Day and Night on Earth because the Earth rotates on its axis because of the Sun’s creation.


    The Sun formed from the bulge at the center of this disk, and the planets formed further out. They inherited their rotation from the overall movement of the Solar System itself.

    Over the course of a few hundred million years, all of the material in the Solar System gathered together into planets, asteroids, moons and comets. Then the powerful radiation and solar winds from the young Sun cleared out everything that was left over.

    Without any unbalanced forces acting on them, the inertia of the Sun and the planets have kept them spinning for billions of years.

    And they’ll continue to do so until they collide with some object, billions or even trillions of years in the future.

    The Earth spins because it formed in the accretion disk of a cloud of hydrogen that collapsed down from mutual gravity and needed to conserve its angular momentum. It continues to spin because of inertia.

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    God is not about the creation of the universe. Mind your own business. God is about “putting a roof over your head” [the Earth’s atmosphere], it is not about other solar systems. Other solar systems are different Creator/Preserver Gods.

    Entities from other solar systems may be good for us or bad for us. Think about us. Do we even think about inter-solar system diplomacy? Are we good for entities in other solar systems? We have not even adopted an inter-solar system planet in need of our care. We are not holy enough internally to shine out care to entities in other solar systems.

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    Anyway, God (the Sun) gives us Day, Night, and Photosynthesis.

    Just stick with Deus Sol Invictus.
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    Sep 16, 2020 7:38 PM GMT
    Yahweh has meaning, Zeus, Allah, Odin, Maria Regina Caeli, Kali…the gods that people believe in and pray to – or fear. All exist in the imagination, in the stories. All are powerful and knowable, none undefinable.

    Steefen / Astrologer
    The Solar System or the Sun, the Moon, Gaia, the Earth, these gods exist outside imagination. Their power to create, maintain, and destroy life are knowable and definable.

    Our immediate god, the solar system, is contextualized beyond itself via the fundamental forces and the principles of quantum mechanics.

    In physics, there are four observed fundamental forces or interactions that form the basis of all known interactions in nature: gravitational, electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear forces. Some speculative theories have proposed a fifth force to explain various anomalous observations that do not fit existing theories. The characteristics of this fifth force depend on the hypothesis being advanced. Many postulate a force roughly the strength of gravity (i.e. it is much weaker than electromagnetism or the nuclear forces) with a range of anywhere from less than a millimeter to cosmological scales. Another proposal is a new weak force mediated by W′ and Z′ bosons.

    The life giving, life preserving, and life extinguishing solar system is also contextualized via a whole number and fractional numbers of dimensions.
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    Sep 16, 2020 7:43 PM GMT
    There also is the cosmological context.

    Hey Google,

    When will andromeda collide with milky way?

    The monster collision between our Milky Way and fellow spiral galaxy Andromeda will occur about 4.5 billion years from now, according to the new research, which is based on observations made by Europe’s Gaia spacecraft.

    Steefen / Astrologer
    But earthlings will lose Earth in 600 million years.

    The biological and geological future of Earth can be extrapolated based upon the estimated effects of several long-term influences. These include the chemistry at Earth’s surface, the rate of cooling of the planet’s interior, the gravitational interactions with other objects in the Solar System, and a steady increase in the Sun’s luminosity. An uncertain factor in this extrapolation is the continuous influence of technology introduced by humans, such as climate engineering,[2] which could cause significant changes to the planet.[3][4] The current Holocene extinction[5] is being caused by technology[6] and the effects may last for up to five million years.[7] In turn, technology may result in the extinction of humanity, leaving the planet to gradually return to a slower evolutionary pace resulting solely from long-term natural processes.[8][9]

    Over time intervals of hundreds of millions of years, random celestial events pose a global risk to the biosphere, which can result in mass extinctions. These include impacts by comets or asteroids, and the possibility of a massive stellar explosion, called a supernova, within a 100-light-year radius of the Sun. Other large-scale geological events are more predictable. Milankovitch theory predicts that the planet will continue to undergo glacial periods at least until the Quaternary glaciation comes to an end. These periods are caused by the variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth’s orbit.[10] As part of the ongoing supercontinent cycle, plate tectonics will probably result in a supercontinent in 250–350 million years. Some time in the next 1.5–4.5 billion years, the axial tilt of the Earth may begin to undergo chaotic variations, with changes in the axial tilt of up to 90°.[11]

    The luminosity of the Sun will steadily increase, resulting in a rise in the solar radiation reaching the Earth. This will result in a higher rate of weathering of silicate minerals, which will cause a decrease in the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. In about 600 million years from now, the level of carbon dioxide will fall below the level needed to sustain C3 carbon fixation photosynthesis used by trees. Some plants use the C4 carbon fixation method, allowing them to persist at carbon dioxide concentrations as low as 10 parts per million. However, the long-term trend is for plant life to die off altogether. The extinction of plants will be the demise of almost all animal life, since plants are the base of the food chain on Earth.

    Wikipedia’s Future of Earth entry

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    Steefen / Astrologer
    I do not have eternity as a characteristic for my “local” gods (Solar System: Sun, Earth, Moon).
    Deus Sol Invictus is the God earthlings.
    Earthlings – 250-milllion year marker (supercontinent), 600-million year marker (no more photosynthesis), 4.5 billion-year marker (galaxies collide)

    Some May Say
    But you cannot have a theory of god without eternity (all time) and the universe/multi-verse (all places).

    Steefen / Astrologer
    God is relative to where I and other Earthlings can exist. Sure, there are other beings in the multiverse. They have their planets, their star-Suns, their local galaxies. The God of beings on a planet, with or without a Moon, in a solar system in the Andromeda galaxy, without quantum pairing to Earth, is pragmatically outside the scope of our Deus Sol Invictus that “cares” for us.

    Some May Say
    I object to the term “care” on the grounds of personifying the Sun leading to anguish over “how can God let this happen?”

    Debate Judge
    Preservation of life, maintaining life, provisions for life–cares in air quotes is allowed. A functioning car does not “care” for the driver of the car.

    Steefen / Astrologer
    An unrelated star-God in Andromeda is pragmatically outside the theological scope of relevance for our Deus Sol Invictus in the Milky Way. When discussing the philosophical question, Does God exist, the notion of God must be within a significant, pragmatic scope of relevance for the being dependent on its Source of creation-preservation-extinction.

    So, no, we do not have 5 billion years left, dying with our Sun, our God.
    We only have 600 million years, at most; existence ending with an inhabitable Earth.
    We die with our goddess, Gaia.