Twitter bans President Trump permanently

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    Jan 09, 2021 12:27 AM GMT
    Twitter has suspended President Donald Trump from its platform, the company said Friday evening.

    "After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence," Twitter said.
    "In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action."

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/trump-twitter-ban/index.html
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    Yep, so now Titter will lose 75-80 million users that Parler will gain.
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    Jan 09, 2021 4:21 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said

    Yep, so now Titter will lose 75-80 million users that Parler will gain.


    For about a week and once the novelty has worn off they will be back.

    I hope they have already downloaded the app or they will find themselves having some difficulty.
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    Jan 09, 2021 2:10 PM GMT
    Trump Tries And Fails To Tweet From POTUS, Ally Accounts
    Trump’s tweets from the official presidential account quickly disappeared, indicating Twitter deleted them. Other associated accounts were suspended.

    With his personal Twitter account permanently shut down on Friday, President Donald Trump tried to circumvent the situation by tweeting from the official presidential account ― and then from other accounts, including the official Twitter account for the Trump campaign ― but his plan appears to have gone awry.

    Tweets that Trump sent out from the @POTUS account quickly disappeared, indicating Twitter may have deleted them, though the company hasn’t explicitly stated its involvement. His campaign’s Twitter account @TeamTrump was then suspended after it posted the same remarks from the president.

    Trump’s comments, posted both to the @POTUS and @TeamTrump accounts, were loaded with conspiracy theories that Twitter, a private company, was colluding with Democrats to censor his speech.

    “As I have been saying for a long time, Twitter has gone further and further in banning free speech, and tonight, Twitter employees have coordinated with the Democrats and the Radical Left in removing my account from their platform, to silence me,” the outgoing president said.

    The @POTUS account is passed on to whoever holds the executive office, but Trump has rarely used it, instead favoring his @realDonaldTrump handle. Twitter permanently shut down that personal account Friday evening after determining it carried a “risk of further incitement of violence.”

    Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) said Twitter “did the right thing. The actions being taken by the social media platforms are appropriate. When someone incites violence you don’t want to be apart of that.”

    The social media giant issued a statement Friday noting it has a “ban evasion policy” in place for when users try to circumvent their suspensions.

    “For government accounts, such as @POTUS and @WhiteHouse, we will not suspend those accounts but will take action to limit their use,” the company explained.

    This policy appears to be the reason behind the suspension of the @TeamTrump account, though Twitter has yet to comment publicly on it.

    The Twitter account of Gary Coby, the digital director for Trump’s campaign, was also suspended Friday night after he apparently changed the name on the account to “Donald Trump” and tweeted to Dan Scavino, the White House deputy chief of staff, to give him access to his account.

    That was quick!

    Trump campaign digital director tweeted @DanScavino to use his account for Trump and was swiftly suspended: https://t.co/muQkbPweFB pic.twitter.com/cyEeDTkoi6

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-twitter-potus-account_n_5ff9096fc5b6c77d85e6ca55
  • srqdirt

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    Jan 09, 2021 4:02 PM GMT
    Parler received the ax from the apple store and google.

    Hahahaha
  • MEGATRON

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    Jan 09, 2021 7:54 PM GMT
    srqdirt saidParler received the ax from the apple store and google.

    Hahahaha


    You're laughing about the USA turning into a communist country?

    It's ok though. We can still access the app from our web browsers and just add it to our home screens. *shrug*
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    Jan 09, 2021 8:33 PM GMT
    This should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.
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    Jan 09, 2021 8:57 PM GMT
    On an Android device, you can always sideload it.
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    Jan 09, 2021 11:17 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.


    He still has his First Amendment right, which prevents the government for censoring people. None of us have a right to a Twitter account. Even freedom of speech is limited, for instance, the classic "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater." Any LGBT person should know this, as private companies for decades have silenced our voices. This has been further strengthened by court rulings that say, for instance, a baker can refuse service to a gay couple. Businesses in the United States can refuse to serve anyone now, on moral grounds.
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    CuriousJockAZ saidThis should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.


    He still has his First Amendment right, which prevents the government for censoring people. None of us have a right to a Twitter account. Even freedom of speech is limited, for instance, the classic "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater." Any LGBT person should know this, as private companies for decades have silenced our voices. This has been further strengthened by court rulings that say, for instance, a baker can refuse service to a gay couple. Businesses in the United States can refuse to serve anyone now, on moral grounds.


    Facebook and Twitter have near monopolistic control in their areas of business. Suppose your phone company decided to cut off your service, your bank decided to close your accounts, your power utility shut off your power, or the the water board decided to terminate your account. Where there are viable alternates to service, your libertarian argument holds. Where there aren't, then not so much. There are protections against abuse by government-approved corporate utility companies. Not so with the new technology giants.

    Parler has been attempting to provide an alternative to Twitter, but today, both Apple and Google deleted its app from their stores, pushing Twitter close to a near-monopoly corporation. Facebook has been deleting conservative groups -- it's another near monopoly with no robust competition.

    I remember a time when the ACLU defended the right of the KKK to hold a parade in the Jewish community of Skokie IL. Now the ACLU is defending censorship. It's a sad day. Today, wealthy multi-national corporations are a greater threat to individual freedoms than governments ever were.

    Ten years ago, the ACLU made the following statement (https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/rights-protesters/protecting-outrageous-offensive-speech):

    To be clear: the ACLU strongly disagrees with the protestors' message in this case. But even truly offensive speech is protected by the First Amendment. As ACLU Legal Director Steven Shapiro told NPR this morning:

    "The First Amendment really was designed to protect a debate at the fringes. You don't need the courts to protect speech that everybody agrees with, because that speech will be tolerated. You need a First Amendment to protect speech that people regard as intolerable or outrageous or offensive — because that is when the majority will wield its power to censor or suppress, and we have a First Amendment to prevent the government from doing that.
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    Jan 09, 2021 11:48 PM GMT
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    DCEric said
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.


    He still has his First Amendment right, which prevents the government for censoring people. None of us have a right to a Twitter account. Even freedom of speech is limited, for instance, the classic "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater." Any LGBT person should know this, as private companies for decades have silenced our voices. This has been further strengthened by court rulings that say, for instance, a baker can refuse service to a gay couple. Businesses in the United States can refuse to serve anyone now, on moral grounds.


    Facebook and Twitter have near monopolistic control in their areas of business. Suppose your phone company decided to cut off your service, your bank decided to close your accounts, your power utility shut off your power, or the the water board decided to terminate your account. Where there are viable alternates to service, your libertarian argument holds. Where there aren't, then not so much. There are protections against abuse by government-approved corporate utility companies. Not so with the new technology giants.

    Parler has been attempting to provide an alternative to Twitter, but today, both Apple and Google deleted its app from their stores, pushing Twitter close to a near-monopoly corporation. Facebook has been deleting conservative groups -- it's another near monopoly with no robust competition.

    I remember a time when the ACLU defended the right of the KKK to hold a parade in the Jewish community of Skokie IL. Now the ACLU is defending censorship. It's a sad day. Today, wealthy multi-national corporations are a greater threat to individual freedoms than governments ever were.

    Ten years ago, the ACLU made the following statement (https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/rights-protesters/protecting-outrageous-offensive-speech):

    To be clear: the ACLU strongly disagrees with the protestors' message in this case. But even truly offensive speech is protected by the First Amendment. As ACLU Legal Director Steven Shapiro told NPR this morning:

    "The First Amendment really was designed to protect a debate at the fringes. You don't need the courts to protect speech that everybody agrees with, because that speech will be tolerated. You need a First Amendment to protect speech that people regard as intolerable or outrageous or offensive — because that is when the majority will wield its power to censor or suppress, and we have a First Amendment to prevent the government from doing that.


    rkyjockdn,

    There are still plenty of websites for Trump supporters to go. This notion that they have been silenced is nonsense.

    The ACLU is supportive of freedom of speech. Being banned from private entity's platform is not a first amendment issue. And the ACLU still defends the rights of racists to make their proclamations, so far as it doesn't veer into inciting violence territory.

    You and CuriousJockAZ really need to stop conflating the issue of the freedom of speech.
  • DCEric

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    Jan 10, 2021 12:36 AM GMT
    rkyjockdn said
    DCEric said
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.


    He still has his First Amendment right, which prevents the government for censoring people. None of us have a right to a Twitter account. Even freedom of speech is limited, for instance, the classic "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater." Any LGBT person should know this, as private companies for decades have silenced our voices. This has been further strengthened by court rulings that say, for instance, a baker can refuse service to a gay couple. Businesses in the United States can refuse to serve anyone now, on moral grounds.


    Facebook and Twitter have near monopolistic control in their areas of business. Suppose your phone company decided to cut off your service, your bank decided to close your accounts, your power utility shut off your power, or the the water board decided to terminate your account. Where there are viable alternates to service, your libertarian argument holds. Where there aren't, then not so much. There are protections against abuse by government-approved corporate utility companies. Not so with the new technology giants.

    Parler has been attempting to provide an alternative to Twitter, but today, both Apple and Google deleted its app from their stores, pushing Twitter close to a near-monopoly corporation. Facebook has been deleting conservative groups -- it's another near monopoly with no robust competition.

    I remember a time when the ACLU defended the right of the KKK to hold a parade in the Jewish community of Skokie IL. Now the ACLU is defending censorship. It's a sad day. Today, wealthy multi-national corporations are a greater threat to individual freedoms than governments ever were.

    Ten years ago, the ACLU made the following statement (https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/rights-protesters/protecting-outrageous-offensive-speech):

    To be clear: the ACLU strongly disagrees with the protestors' message in this case. But even truly offensive speech is protected by the First Amendment. As ACLU Legal Director Steven Shapiro told NPR this morning:

    "The First Amendment really was designed to protect a debate at the fringes. You don't need the courts to protect speech that everybody agrees with, because that speech will be tolerated. You need a First Amendment to protect speech that people regard as intolerable or outrageous or offensive — because that is when the majority will wield its power to censor or suppress, and we have a First Amendment to prevent the government from doing that.


    The ACLU, nor anyone else has grounds to sue. You may not like what has happened, but there is no law, nor any part of the Constitution that has been violated. If there was, Trump had more than enough wealth to sue, as does the GOP. The ACLU also wouldn't have standing, Trump (or Parker, or anyone else) would have to request their assistance.
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    srqdirt saidParler received the ax from the apple store and google.

    Hahahaha


    You're laughing about the USA turning into a communist country?

    It's ok though. We can still access the app from our web browsers and just add it to our home screens. *shrug*
    Ok Comrade
  • srqdirt

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    Jan 10, 2021 1:17 AM GMT
    El Dumpo still has the ability to broadcast to the American people through press releases, live broadcasts, not like anyone will watch or anything

    Kayleigh will still lie her ass off for him

    No problem here, only tears.

    It’s incredible the shape shifting going on. I guess it’s not too late to drag out Benghazi

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    Jan 10, 2021 1:25 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.


    First Amendment......

    The clown can still have a press conference etc right now

    He can still tell the world the vote was stolen and file lawsuits wherever he wants.

    Still call hannity, judge ashtray, tucker and cry

    And Melanie can still work on cursing out Christmas and destroying whitehouse landscapes

    Ivanka can still talk about baskets of food and Netanyahu

    You can still get out your assault rifles run to the town square and hold up your latte and scream “tyranny”


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    Jan 10, 2021 6:46 AM GMT
    Socialist and Censorship.
    Is the beginning of the end of Free Speech, in America?
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    Jan 10, 2021 9:54 AM GMT
    Muskelprotz said
    srqdirt said
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis should worry everybody. If the President of the United States can lose his 1st Amendment right it can happen to any of us. We are headed down a dark and very scary road. Be safe, everybody.

    First Amendment......
    The clown can still have a press conference etc right now
    He can still tell the world the vote was stolen and file lawsuits wherever he wants.
    Still call hannity, judge ashtray, tucker and cry
    And Melanie can still work on cursing out Christmas and destroying whitehouse landscapes
    Ivanka can still talk about baskets of food and Netanyahu
    You can still get out your assault rifles run to the town square and hold up your latte and scream “tyranny

    "President Trump can turn his press team or Fox News to communicate with the public, but others – like many Black, Brown, and LGTBQ activists who have been censored by social media companies – will not have that luxury. It is our hope that these companies will apply their rules transparently to everyone." - ACLU

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/aclu-counsel-warns-of-unchecked-power-of-twitter-facebook-after-trump-suspension/ar-BB1cC029


    Now u love the ACLU. invite El Dumpo to join RJ. Almost anything can be said here.
  • DCEric

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    Jan 10, 2021 3:56 PM GMT
    AussieBeef saidSocialist and Censorship.
    Is the beginning of the end of Free Speech, in America?


    Socialism is an economic system in which the government manages private companies, or competes with them, with the intent of protecting the county's citizens. Twitter is a private company, which is under no obligation to remove, or maintain, any working relationships or accounts. If there is anything to be upset about here as far as the economy is concerned (protip: there isn't), it would be capitalism, as Twitter is not obligated by the government to maintain any working relationships or accounts.
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    Jan 10, 2021 4:22 PM GMT
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    The constitution only applies to the government. The First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law……”

    The constitution limits only what the government can do. Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, and Google are private companies, not the government. Therefore, they don't have to respect constitutional rights. They can decide what is and isn't allowed. If you can't say something on Facebook, you can say it anywhere else. These private platforms can only censor content on their sites. They can't stop you from saying it anywhere else.

    Of course, the government can limit what is allowed. For example, these private platforms can't host child pornography.

    These private platforms are essentially the private property of the companies. It is a privilege to use their private property. Part of that privilege is that you have to follow their rules. For example, an airplane is the property of the airline. It's a privilege that United Airlines allows you to fly on their plane. With that privilege comes whatever responsibilities United wants. They can require headphones for electronics, regulate what food you can bring, and other things. Of course, like with the tech platforms, the government can stop United passengers (or any airline passengers) from bringing their own alchohol. In short, when you use a tech platform, you have been granted the privilege of using someone else's private property. They can put whatever restrictions they want.icon_lol.gif

    https://www.quora.com/Why-don-t-free-speech-laws-apply-to-private-companies-like-Twitter-Google-and-Facebook-They-are-platforms-for-speech-yet-they-censor-those-whom-they-disagree-with-Why