Any christians here?

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    Apr 16, 2009 12:18 AM GMT
    I am a Christian. Born into a Christian home. Dad is still preaching in a small Southern Baptist church.
    Does my church accept me? I honestly don't know. I don't make being gay an issue. I'm sure some have figured it out. If they do have an issue with it, they haven't expressed it. I want to think that the church I currently attend, which happens to be a CBF affiliated church, is fairly open minded. I know for a fact that the pastor is very progressive as we have had several one on one chats about gays in the church.

    Always looking for like minded friends...and of course, looking for Mr. Right. icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 17, 2009 11:55 AM GMT
    sickothesame saidas long as we know we are all going to hell, I think we can all be friends.

    ;)

    I wish we all lived closer and could sit at a coffee house and talk about this all and then have a fist fight outside (although we probably would never get to that point, I just think we need a fightclub-esque moment).

    Occam's razor does work. But it's kind of boring. And the razor has not worked before.

    Thanks for the saturday afternoon fun.


    If I've understood correctly, sickothesame, you are an agnostic, non-theist Episcopalian who believes in science but not in hell.

    If that is in fact the case, you and I have near-total overlap on these matters. Nice to know that someone out there has the same set of beliefs.

    On the other hand, it leaves us with nothing to fist fight over, which is kind of a shame. icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 18, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    CarlosGringo saidWestern religions like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam have an 'esoteric' side that shares much in common with Hinduism and Buddhism, and all the world's major religions share ethical precepts that make dialogue possible.

    It is human nature to believe one's truth is the only truth, and to want to share it with others. This message and most of the messages on this thread are an example of that.

    I'm inclined to say that if there is a G*d, then He/She/It is most likely forever incomprehensible to human consciousness.

    But that doesn't stop people from trying, or blowing up the inkling of insight they may get into something really strange. Nor should it, in my opinion.

    Trying to understand each other better, and to respect everyone's journey is one thing we can do to broaden our perspective.


    very well said. If God can be figured out, it's like saying my calculator can figure out human mind.

    All religions reflects our understanding of spirituality, that is they all seeks Goodness and Truth. Each religion might stress difference in goodness and truth, but the combined experience might just express a small amount of God's quality.
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    Aug 18, 2009 3:23 AM GMT
    I am an Ori Master. If you all don't forsake your false god, and religion, and submit to the Ori, planet earth will be destroyed in 2012.

    There is only one truth, and one way, and thats to follow the Ori; you have been warned.
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    Aug 18, 2009 3:25 AM GMT
    Nope.
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    Aug 22, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    ebl333 saidHardly anyone post here. so here i go..

    for those of you who consider yourself christian, the questions is

    What is your attitude toward Bible; "word for word", "pick and choose" or , "what is bible"

    I have a hard time dealing with my own faith and being gay, i'm sure there must be people like me. so i'd like to heard your view on this. And please, dont' give me that being good and do good things is all there is as christian. i'd change to buddhism and set myself free from this struggle. I"m christian not because of tradition, things i did when i was young, or what i brought up to be. I am because i choose to be and that i see truth in it. yet the bible bothers me. that's all


    I beleive if you are truly going to follow Christ, you need to accept everything he taught or none of it. Jesus himself said that a lot of what he says is hard for many people to accept, but if we truly want to follow him, we need to follow EVERYTHING he says and not just pick out the things we like. One of those hard teachings is that he says that he is the only way to the Father and that only through faith in him alone are we saved. A person either accepts him or rejectss him. There is no middle ground.
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    Aug 22, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
    I never cease to be amazed, really have my breath taken away, by the epistemological naivety of gay evangelicals.

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    Aug 22, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
    I have my beliefs because I beleive my beliefs are well founded. If another person has different beliefs and also beleives they are well founded, that is ok. That is what is so great about America. Each of us is free to have whatever beliefs we want and we can follow whatever beleifs we want. That's why I like it here in America,despite all our problems and our bickering and complaining.
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    Aug 22, 2009 10:01 PM GMT

    Who...resurrected this thread?
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    Oct 30, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
    I really cant go into details about it all. I have been through hell dealing with conservative chrisstians and haters. I love God and Jesus and wish more Gay people weren't so utterly betrayed by the people in the church. I will post more tommorow.
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    Oct 30, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
    Atheist, agnostic, apathetic choose which ever I just am not a man of faith but at the same time I will not treat you less if you are. As long as I am treated as you wish to be treated.
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    Oct 30, 2013 3:28 AM GMT
    There are LOTS of Christians Here.

    They tip extra every time I Blow them....
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    Oct 30, 2013 3:28 AM GMT
    father/son /holy spirit
    super ego/ ego/ id.

    that's it for me!
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:15 AM GMT
    johnnyqhomo7 saidI really cant go into details about it all. I have been through hell dealing with conservative chrisstians and haters. I love God and Jesus and wish more Gay people weren't so utterly betrayed by the people in the church. I will post more tommorow.
    Are you a Gay Christian? Not sure what to consider myself; although I would love to find a Gay Friendly Church around here, like there are in San Francisco, I still will listen to a favorite Pastor from Tucson on the internet since I can't easily get to the church service anymore. On the other hand, I'm not as tradition. I do believe in Jesus; though I find myself meditation to "binaural beats", just finished 3 hours of the stuff, with "The Eternal Om (full)" to cap it off. Though I love the logic and reasoning from Buddhism, I don't consider a full Buddhist either. icon_neutral.gificon_confused.gif
    Anyhow, would love to hear from you later. Peace.
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:20 AM GMT
    Error saidThere's a creepy guy who wrote a book.
    Did you read it?
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:20 AM GMT
    woodsmen said^But don't you take a leap of faith every time you fly?


    Flying in a plane is hardly a leap of faith. It's ALL science. Aerodynamics puts a negative pressure under the wing and the planes rises. You're at greater risk of getting hit by lightning (not the Gods, but, just plain old static electricity) than having any kind of problem in the plane.

    That's the difference between false systems / faith and truth / science. Science is observable, predictable, quantifiable, has sound logic, and so on. False belief systems, on the other hand, are most often absent of any logic and completely and no basis in fact.

    Flying is not a leap of faith. Rather, it's a testimonial to truth-based belief systems rather than false belief systems. Science predicted that if man created a negative air pressure under a moving wing that there would be lift, and, sure enough, it works just like that and it can be predicted, engineered, observed, and so on. Even though we can't see atoms, the computer you're reading this on probably has some power created from the collision of some atoms. It's not The Gods. It's not your imaginary friend. It's science, doing what it's done for billions of years: being real. Flying is in no way a leap of faith. It's a testimonial to the truths in The World around us.
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:31 AM GMT
    keep the faith
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:33 AM GMT
    Look at the movie "Bobby for prayers".
    You'll get the answer.
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:41 AM GMT
    Ldes saidLook at the movie "Bobby for prayers".
    You'll get the answer.
    Ok!
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    icon_idea.gif Got it!