Newbie confusion

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    Nov 05, 2007 7:42 PM GMT
    Where to begin...Ok so I started working out a little over a year ago, and while the difference from then to now is good, I am not really thrilled. I have a ton of enthusiasm and desire but am just getting so confused. HELP!

    What I have to work with...not much really. Am tall and small framed in regards to proportions (Narrow shoulders, straight torso, etc) I am finding that parts of me are developing while others seem to go nowhere (i.e chest is coming along great and abs are doing well, while arms shoulders and legs staying small). I have been told I have bad genetic build for size, but I don't buy this.

    I have been told diet is key, but aside from basic info like more protein, etc I do not seem to be finding a good diet that can work right. Especially since I can not cook. Are there any premade meals that can be purchased or a guide for those of us who eat out as to what is acceptable and not? Reccomendations would be great.

    Also when I started I got going on a diet that was to rip me up. Well it definitely ripped weight off, but any and all size I had started getting went out the door. Is there a way to lose body fat and not lose size..i ended up 20lbs ligher and inches smaller. LOL The abs looked great though.

    The whole thing is just kinda driving me do u build, eat, not get thick, or rip up without losing size, what foods for the cooking challenged are there. Is it better to train to build size vs. ripping, is it true that some people are genetically cursed...???

    Sigh. I have a headache. LOL

    hanks for the input.
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    Nov 05, 2007 9:57 PM GMT
    I also have relatively thin arms, as did my father.

    One thing that seems to help (some) is using arginine supplements, like NOxplode. I've always had rather poor circulation in the arms, and the supplements definitely help with that and seem to help with mass increase (as long as I work the hell out of them, too.)
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    Nov 05, 2007 10:20 PM GMT
    Google on somatype. You're a classic ectomporph.

    Google on training for ectomorphs.

    Understand, that, at 37, being and ectomorph, and if you're not on anti-aging, you're gonna' not make big gains. You have to eat good every day. Calories are your friends, if you're looking for more size. Stuff like creatine, and NO will help you with volumization (you'll look bigger temporarily), but to really big any real gains, require you to eat hard. You're not doing anything wrong. If you diet to get ripped, you'll get lean on a dime...ectos do,'re a hard-gainer, and older. If you want really need to through more fat into your diet, and as long as it's not saturated, and not fried, you can do it without to much problem,'re fighting your body's natural tendency to be skinny as a rail. You might consider embracing a lean and mean look.

    I'm a classic mesomorph / endomorph. I look at weights and get bigger. I get lean fairly easy, but, not like you would. Sometimes, I wish I had more of what you had, and other times more of what the endo had, depending on what I'm doing at given moment.

    Any time you lean up, you're gonna' lose some size; especially at your age.
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    Nov 05, 2007 11:50 PM GMT
    Thanks Chucky, that is some intersting info, I am definitely going to go look that up...
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    Nov 06, 2007 7:45 AM GMT
    come see the softer side of Searsicon_eek.gif
  • GQjock

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    Nov 06, 2007 11:49 AM GMT
    If you are a true ectomorph you're going to be a hard gainer which means it's going to be fairly difficult to gain muscle mass
    diet is going to be very important for you because you're going to need to keep up the calories and the protein more than most guys
    also weights rather than cardio are the way to go
  • DCguy2001

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    Nov 15, 2007 7:46 AM GMT
    I'm in a similar situation as you. About the same age, also started out working about a year ago - good progress since then, but haven't added as much muscle mass as I'd hoped. I hear about these guys who add 10, 20, 30 pounds of muscle right away and then I see how I've stayed basically the same weight since January!

    I have varied my diet some - try to eat more protein. I started doing protein shakes in May, and added Creatine (as an experiment) to those shakes starting about 5 weeks ago. Overall, I'm just making incremental progress - which is why I was interested in whatever advice other guys give you.

    On the bright side, you're looking pretty ripped in those pics - there are tons of guys (including guys in their 20s) who would be very jealous of your body!