Tips For a New Gym Rat

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    May 04, 2007 7:31 PM GMT
    Alright, guys, here we go:
    I am pretty new to the gym scene. I just finished the sophomore year in college, so I've been working out at the school gym, although inconsistantly, for about a year and a half. The fat is coming off, but its S-L-O-W. I can see my arms getting bigger, but again, this is marginal and its taken forever. I usually hit the eliptical machine for about 30 - 45 minutes.

    What I want are tips for training that is going to help me get "the look" faster. The other problem is that I am a BROKE college student, so the protein shakes and vitamins are pretty much out of the picture.

    Any help is appreciated.

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    May 04, 2007 9:29 PM GMT
    First you gotta figure out what "the look" is. Do you want broad shoulders, rippling arms or a 6-pack of abs--or all of it? You really gotta know what you're working for in order to get a good body.

    If you're looking to build muscle, you've got to lift weights consistently (but not the same muscle groups everyday--give a day's rest in between at least) with proper form. Make sure you eat right, but also that you eat enough. Doing a lot of cardio could eat into the calories you're consuming which could be better utilized to repair the muscles you're working out.

    Read as much as you can . . I'm a student to and used to read a lot in order to get a lot of tips. It's for body builders, so it's a little specialized, but it gave me a really good understanding of the process of putting together a workout and the chemistry behind lifting and eating. If you understand the chemistry and physiology of what you're doing, you can better plan for your body.

    This site (RealJock) didn't used to have a lot of articles but that is changing rapidly. Read up as much as you can and browse the forums to see what experiences people have had.

    Most importantly, make some goals, set a plan, and then assess your results.
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    May 05, 2007 2:52 PM GMT
    It takes tons of exercise to lose a little weight so the way to get ripped as fast as possible ( even if the muscle is not that big) is eliminate body fat which means switching to a diet that does not build fat and burns the fat you have. That 's easy just don't eat any man-made'll save some cash to. That means eliminating all manmade carbo's ...pasta, chips, cakes, breads etc. Cut out all your manmade sugar products. ( a soft drink had 25 tablespoons of sugar) . Eat all the meat and veggies and fruit you want to....Cheese too it , is the only exception to the manmade food rule. I have seen guys drop 10 lbs a month on this diet...which becomes a life style.
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    May 06, 2007 1:15 AM GMT
    Until you learn how to upload a picture, gain the confidence, play by the rules, it's hard to advise you. There's not enough information to make a quality judgment.

    I suspect that you're the same way with your training as you are with your profile and half ass everything. Until you reach a mindset of anything that is worth doing is worth doing well, you'll continue to fail.

    Start by trying to do well with your profile and pictures here, and move that across the board to other things in your life.

    I suggest you google for answers to your question. There simply isn't enough information (you came to the table completely unprepared) at present to answer your question in a qualified manner.

    Again, anything worth doing is worth doing well. Start with your profile and pics here and work across the board at improving your approach to goals. Plan for success.
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    May 06, 2007 1:48 AM GMT
    Like chukcystud says. Its hard to know what you look like and what you are trying to get without a picture. you say you are trying to loose weight but your arms are getting bigger. What is your goal? Generally, speaking, don't expect huge results overnight or over a month. It takes consistancy and lots of effort.
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    May 06, 2007 2:01 AM GMT
    And what is "the look". That definition really varies from person to person and from .
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    May 06, 2007 2:02 AM GMT
    (contnued, sory)time to time. Some guys are putting on mass, while others are trying to cut and within a few months, it might switch.
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    May 07, 2007 8:23 PM GMT
    Let's just all take a deep breath and calm down about a lack of profile picture. I see a big problem with all of those whoe jumped down my throat about it. I came here to get actual help from "people who know". I didn't come here to cruise for someone to fuck in the locker room. Chuckystud, I suggest you stop using this website for spank material and get real.
    I seriously doubt that you need to see my picture to give me fitness advice. You guys really aren't doing much for the gay community here. What if real jock was an actual gym? If I came in for training would you need to take me to the locker room to give me GENERAL tips?
    Lets keep it realy, fellas.
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    May 07, 2007 8:35 PM GMT
    Well, if you're asking for advice, first of all, you could stand not to reply with anger. Second, consider that while some people reply about pictureless profiles as a knee-jerk thing, no doubt, that there is merit to asking for a photo when you're asking for advice.

    After all, with your current request and no photo, it basically boils down to "I'm overweight and want more muscle mass, and have an idea of what I want to look like. Without me showing you what I look like now or telling you what I want to look like later, can you tell me how to get there? Also, please make it inexpensive."

    With a request that vague, what kind of specific, personalized response do you expect? Pretty much all anyone can tell you, from what you've given us, is some vague advice. For example, here's some tips that might work:

    - Lose the weight first by eating less and exercising more. Short, intense cardio plus some weightlifting will help. Eating less is the key, though.

    - After you've lost some fat, add a bunch of protein back into your diet and lift weights to put on muscle.

    ... but here's the thing: you can get that advice by reading the many excellent articles already on this site.

    Can you understand, then, why it might seem disrespectful to post in the forum asking for personal help when you aren't willing to do the work yourself? You can't be bothered to put up a picture of what you look like? I'm going to assume you also haven't read the articles on the site.

    Sorry to be all tough-love style, but you're asking for a favor. You're asking for people to take some of their own time to help you. And you're doing as little work as possible to meet them halfway, and then snapping back when they're upset by it.

    You may find that's not the most productive approach.
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    May 16, 2007 1:59 AM GMT
    I have to agree with CHUCKYSTUD.

    If you won't take the time to even fill out the profile...

    You won't take the time to finish out a proper workout...

    And I'll second the manmade white sugar. STOP! Don't drink sodas, or put sugar in your coffee, and the only birthday cake you should eat is your own on your own birthday. I never eat that shitty suger white icing cake from grocery stores for co-workers birthday. YUK!
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    May 24, 2007 4:49 AM GMT
    Hello, its my first post!

    I find very amusing how you guys take this forum so seriously... you should lighten up! :-D

    As for advice for our overweight friend, I would second what was said by the climber guy. But...

    If you are new to gym you have to watch out for injuries for trying to do things you are not ready yet, or doing exercises wrong. I am tired of seeing people "running" on the treadmills all hunched over in the support, or trying to lift weights that are causing unnecessary stress to their back.

    I know you are short on cash, but I would seriously recommend that you get a physical assessment and a routine done by a certified physical trainer. Yeah, most of those guys don't know much, but it is helpful to learn the basis and identify any previous condition you might need to be aware of.

    Regarding supplements, I wouldnt worry much. If you are starting, proper diet will work wonders. Save the creatin for after 1 year. And you can replace whey by having a greater protein intake in your diet - meat, beans, egg, nuts, sardines.

    The best advice in my opinion is for you to spend 70% of your time worrying about your diet, and 30% for the routine itself. In order to have growth you have to have a solid foundation with your body, otherwise you will just be wasting time.

    Oh, and set goals for what you want to accomplish and in what period of time. That helps in those lazy evenings where you would rather stay home jacking of than go to gym.

    Good luck!! :-D
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    May 24, 2007 5:41 AM GMT
    Rower makes some good points. I agree with him that nutrition takes precedence over the specifics of a workout.

    You gave us a hint of your condition when you spoke about how slowly the fat was coming off. There's a book available through Lee Labrada's website - Get Lean - which might help you. It does NOT require you to use fancy supplements - just good plain food.

    I hear what some of you guys are saying about pictures and incomplete profiles. While it would be more helpful if this guy had more info, I can tell you that when I was in my worst shape I didn't let myself be photographed. I have one fuzzy, ugly photo from my fat days, and that's all. And you won't catch me posting it, either.

    Let's cut the kid some slack, OK? He'll post some when he's ready....
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    May 24, 2007 5:42 AM GMT
    PS: He's in Georgetown fucking Texas, guys. That's not exactly West Hollywood. Have a little compassion.